The Tod Hole

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Last Updated 9/14/09

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TOURING; NEW RECORD OUT: THE GOLDEN HOUR

 

Firewater (photo at top) and Cop Shoot Cop share singer Tod Ashley (the guy in the picture above), also known as Tod A. Cop Shoot Cop was the greatest of all bands, and was a noisy little outfit that in some incarnations was known for having multiple bassists and no guitarist (and the keyboards weren't exactly lead most of the time). Firewater isn't really noisy usually; nevertheless they continue much of the underlying song writing style of CSC (although it took me a few listens to their first album to make the transition). This isn't to derrogate the other members of both bands; their own contributions can be seen on their other projects, many of which have links below.

There are links to audio below, so you can decide for yourself what Firewater and Cop Shoot Cop sound like. Phil Puleo's site is the best source for Cop Shoot Cop MP3s; there is no primary source for Firewater MP3s, unless you count The Tod Hole as your guide to them…

Present status (a.k.a. News):

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2009

 

Firewater is touring Europe in the Fall.

Oct 16 2009 8:00P OST*Klub Vienna, AUSTRIA

Oct 19 2009 8:00P 59:1 Fifty-nine to One Munich, GERMANY

Oct 21 2009 8:00P Hafenkneipe Zurich, SWITZERLAND

Oct 23 2009 8:00P Sedel Luzern, SWITZERLAND

Oct 24 2009 8:00P Les Docks Lausanne, SWITZERLAND

Oct 27 2009 8:00P Hafenklang Hamburg, GERMANY

Oct 28 2009 8:00P Forum Bielefeld, GERMANY

Oct 29 2009 8:00P Hoerbar Oberstdorf, GERMANY

Oct 30 2009 8:00P Le Brise Glace Annecy, FRANCE

Oct 31 2009 8:00P Le Moulin de Brainan Brainan, FRANCE

Nov 1 2009 8:00P (To be announced) Pontoise, FRANCE

Nov 3 2009 8:00P Association Kourt’Echel

Oct 16 2009 8:00P OST*Klub Vienna, AUSTRIA

Oct 19 2009 8:00P 59:1 Fifty-nine to One Munich, GERMANY

Oct 21 2009 8:00P Hafenkneipe Zurich, SWITZERLAND

Oct 23 2009 8:00P Sedel Luzern, SWITZERLAND

Oct 24 2009 8:00P Les Docks Lausanne, SWITZERLAND

Oct 27 2009 8:00P Hafenklang Hamburg, GERMANY

Oct 28 2009 8:00P Forum Bielefeld, GERMANY

Oct 29 2009 8:00P Hoerbar Oberstdorf, GERMANY

Oct 30 2009 8:00P Le Brise Glace Annecy, FRANCE

Oct 31 2009 8:00P Le Moulin de Brainan Brainan, FRANCE

Nov 1 2009 8:00P (To be announced) Pontoise, FRANCE

Nov 3 2009 8:00P Association Kourt’Echel

(September 14th).

 

Firewater toured Europe in the spring. No one tells me shit. (September 14th).

Firewater.tv seems to be gone; in exchange there is the sack of shit which is Myspace. (February 17th).

European tour dates for the spring:

Apr 23 2009 8:00P Reitschule Bern, SWITZERLAND

Apr 24 2009 8:00P Bauhof Pettenbach, AUSTRIA

Apr 25 2009 8:00P PEN Festival Pecs, HUNGARY

Apr 26 2009 8:00P Bloom Mezzago, Milano, ITALY

Apr 27 2009 8:00P Circolo Artisti Roma, ITALY

Apr 28 2009 8:00P Tagomago Massa Carrarra, ITALY

Apr 29 2009 8:00P Arcikroen Villafranca di Verona, ITALY

Apr 30 2009 8:00P Vidia Club Cesena, ITALY

May 1 2009 8:00P Hoebar Obertsdorf, GERMANY

May 2 2009 8:00P Bergen Festival Bergen, NETHERLANDS

May 5 2009 8:00P Bevrijdingsfestival Den Haag, NETHERLANDS

May 6 2009 8:00P Kesselhaus Berlin, GERMANY

May 7 2009 8:00P DESI Nurnburg, GERMANY

May 8 2009 8:00P Gaia Festival Thessaloniki, GREECE

May 9 2009 8:00P Gaia Festival Athens, GREECE

(February 17th).

 

2008

 

Happy Holidays. (December 23rd).

If you subscribe to KEXP's live show podcast, you can download their Firewater show. (December 23rd).

Firewater recorded a set at KEXP in Seattle June 3, 2008, and it will air Tuesday, June 10, at 12:00pm PST at http://www.kexp.org , and it will show up in the streaming archives sometime after that. Here's Electric City on YouTube. (June 4th).

The set list from the first Boston show was: Dark Days Indeed, Hey Clown, Bhangra Bros., Already Gone, Feels Like the End of the World, 6:45, Borneo, Electric City, Some Kind of Kindness, Get Out of My Head, Weird to be Back, Paradise, Some Strange Reaction, 3 Legged Dog, This Is My Life. It's varied somewhat, but the heavily weighted towards the Golden Hour-ness remains. (June 4th).

Tour lineup: Tod A - Vocals NYC / INDONESIA Jean-Marc Butty - Drums, Percussion FRANCE (PJ Harvey, John Parish) http://mapage.noos.fr/outofbreath/band.htm Johnny Kalsi - South Asian Percussion UK (Afro Celt Sound System, Transglobal Underground) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Kalsi Uri Kinrot - Guitar ISRAEL (Balkan Beat Box, Boom Pam) http://www.myspace.com/boompam http://www.boompam.org ; Reut Regev - Trombone ISRAEL / NYC (Frank London Klezmer Allstars) http://www.myspace.com/reutregev ; Erik Sanko - Bass, etc. NYC (Lounge Lizards, Yoko Ono, Skeleton Key) http://www.myspace.com/eriksanko http://www.eriksanko.com (June 4th).

Firewater is touring this spring: http://www.bloodshotrecords.com/tour :

Tue 04.08.08 Rennes (FR) L'Antipode

Thu 04.10.08 Lyon (FR) L'Epicerie Moderne

Fri 04.11.08 Istanbul (TR) Babylon

Sat 04.12.08 Geneva (CH) L'Usine

Mon 04.14.08 Prague (CZ) Rock Cafe

Tue 04.15.08 Dresden (DE) Beatpol

Wed 04.16.08 Berlin (DE) Tacheles

Thu 04.17.08 St. Gallen (CH) Palace

Fri 04.18.08 Bern (CH) Reitschule

Sat 04.19.08 Steyer (AT) Roda

Sun 04.20.08 Wien (AT) B72

Tue 04.22.08 Hamburg (DE) Logo

Wed 04.23.08 Leipzig (DE) Nato

Thu 04.24.08 Bielefeld (DE) Forum

Fri 04.25.08 Hannover (DE) Glocksee

Sat 04.26.08 Ebensee (AT) Kino

Thu 05.01.08 Chalon Sur-Saone (FR) Le Peniche

Fri 05.02.08 Pont-Sainte-Maxence (FR) La Mannekine

Sat 05.03.08 Antwerp (BE) 5 Voor 12

Fri 05.23.08 Boston, MA Paradise

Sat 05.24.08 Brooklyn, NY Southpaw

Sun 05.25.08 Philadelphia, PA North Star

Mon 05.26.08 New York, NY Bowery Ballroom

Wed 05.28.08 Toronto, ON (CA) Horseshoe Tavern

Thu 05.29.08 Detroit, MI Magic Stick

Fri 05.30.08 Chicago, IL The Empty Bottle

Sat 05.31.08 Minneapolis, MN Triple Rock Club

Tue 06.03.08 Seattle, WA Chop Suey

Wed 06.04.08 Portland, OR Doug Fir

Fri 06.06.08 San Francisco, CA Bottom of the Hill

Sat 06.07.08 West Hollywood, CA The Roxy

Sun 06.08.08 San Diego, CA Casbah

Mon 06.09.08 Tucson, AZ Plush

Wed 06.11.08 Ft. Worth, TX Lola's

Thu 06.12.08 Austin, TX Emo's Lounge

Fri 06.13.08 New Orleans, LA House of Blues - The Parish

Sat 06.14.08 Atlanta, GA The Earl

Sun 06.15.08 Chapel Hill, NC Local 506

Mon 06.16.08 Washington, DC Black Cat

Tue 06.17.08 Baltimore, MD Ottobar

(February 25th).

Bloodshot Records signed Firewater in December. "The Golden Hour" is due out in April. Link. (January 9th).

Updates to Shithaus, Dig Dat Hole, and Cop Shoot Cop pages thanks to info from Jose Fritz. (January 9th).

2007

CSC updates: Jim Coleman and Phil Puleo (and Jim Collarusso) are involved with the Michael Weiner music project The Children. http://myspace.com/thechildrensmusic . Phil also has had two songs commissioned by a Chinese amusement park that are on his page at http://philpuleo.com . Natz toured with Unsane recently in Europe, and he has art up at http://www.copshootcop.com/Natz_Paints/index.html. (September 14th).

Firewater's new album will be called "The Golden Hour". The band has been consumed by the darkness which is Myspace and have a myspace page . Please remember that Myspace is a cheat and to throw painful things at anyone who decides basing themselves there is a good idea. Note that at this moment both Bourbon and Division and a new song start playing at the same time, which makes for a complicated sounding remix of Bourbon and Division; but it's not. Stop Bourbon from playing on the top player (or don't, and be all Flamiing Lips about it). Several new songs are on the page; Borneo, This Is My Life, Six Forty Five, Hey Clown!, Weird To Be Back, and Three Legged Dog. They've also got something up on youtube about the record. (August 29th).

A Shithaus cassette was on eBay over the weekend. I unfortunately didn't win it. If you did and would like to spread the audio in some form, feel free to contact me. Hell, if you just have the audio from it in some way, contact me at thetodholeATnetscape.net. (March 19th).

2006

Merry Xmas . (December 23rd).

Tod is supposedly in Bali right now. The next album is supposed to be called Electric City (or was in November), with potential songs Three Legged Dog, Already Gone, Weird to Be Back, and Shine Electric City. (December 23rd).

CSC's video for Shine on Elizabeth is on YouTube . (December 23rd).

Phil Puleo has a WOG CD for sale on his site: go here to buy it before the 100 copies disappear; there's also still the two live CSC discs and the Red Expendables CD. (August 15th).

Tod is making an ill-advised journey from the far east to the middle east. Theoretically, his missives should be showing up here , but I don't think they are. They are showing up at Firewatercircus from Dan Nucci on occassion tho. Search for "Postcards". (July 14th).

Firewater now has a Myspace page. Oh well... (July 14th).

Tod is scheduled to appear (and presumably play) at a tribute to George Javori March 8th at 8PM at Sin-E . 150 Attorney St in NYC; tickets are $5. Paul Wallfisch and the Elysian Fields, both Firewater related, are scheduled as well. (February 26th).

Tod is reportedly meeting with producers in Istanbul. Demos described as aggro but peppy. My guess on an album title: Byzantium Biznitch. (January 12th).

2005

Happy holidays. (December 23rd).

Former Firewater drummer George Javori reportedly committed suicide over the weekend. (December 12th, 2005).

Updated and cleaned out a bunch of main page links. (May 11th, 2005).

New Cop Shoot Cop CD-R (Live From Switzerland '94, previously available as a cassette, so I need to get info on that and add it to the discography) from Phil Puleo's web store. There's a link to buy some old original CSC posters as well. Heheh, maybe I should silkscreen some new original Tod Hole posters... (April 22nd).

Phil Puleo's Audio Dyslexia is playing May 21st at CBGB's. So's Botanica. It's a who's who of people who don't work with Tod anymore... (April 22nd).

Firewater-related Shotnez is playing Tonic on April 1st. Fuck NYC. Every prophet in his house. (March 28th).

The Firewater-related Balkan Beat Box is doing stuff; oops, they already did it. Be careful, their webpage works like shit on some browsers. (March 28th).

Hey! Cop Shoot Cop's "Migration" is the music in a Nike ad. A Nike ad? Yes, a Nike ad! Just like William S Burroughs. Kinda. The three and a half meg Shockwave file is directly at http://niketown.nike.com/niketown/media/3d/nikepro/swf/np_comm_360.swf , or it's at the page http://niketown.nike.com/niketown/catalog/category.jsp?categoryId=52627. For now. (January 24th).

I recently found a CD called "Super Cool" from a Japanese band named Captain Condoms, circa 1990. Tod Ashley is listed as a lyric cooperator. Neato. (January 24th).

Firewater release is on the back burner; 18 songs are demo-ed, but Tod has gone to Thailand to learn to teach English as a foreign language. (He should tell people he's gone to Thailand to teach Thai to Thais, but that's a story for another day.) I guess we can infer he's not spinning every week still. Let's hope it doesn't turn into a "Brokedown Palace" situation... (January 10th).

OLDER UPDATES

Firewater Links:

GENERAL FIREWATER

Buy Firewater CDs. Buy from Amazon using these links to give me a kickback:

Songs We Should Have Written

The Man on the Burning Tightrope

Psychopharmacology

The Ponzi Scheme

Get Off the Cross

Here's http://www.firewater.tv , the official Firewater site. As of June 2005, it was last updated sometime before the last album came out in early 2004 (other than the forums ). "Music" doesn't even show Songs We Should Have Written. For shame... It does have some photos, videos, and the entire album "The Man on The Burning Tightrope" on it tho.

Here's a link to the Yahoo Groups page for the Firewater Circus, where a lot of stuff is talked about but Firewater isn't discussed much. It is not for those who are looking for just updates on tours or albums.

Here's a link to the Starmelt Firewater fan site. In a world whgere Firewater sites keep dropping off the map, it's still aorund.

Here, naturally enough, is JetSet's Firewater page.

UPDATED 6/11/05: Here is the Noisolution page; it had an English setup in spite of apparently being Firewater's German label, but now that's gone, along with most of the rest of the Firewater content. On the plus side, they use les Flash now. However, they seem to call "Songs We Should Have Written" "Coveralbum" instead...

My page of links to articles, interviews, etc. See below for AV links.

FIREWATER AUDIO/VIDEO (dropping like files)

There are Windows Media and Real Player files from KEXP from Firewater in studio on 11/12/2003 at this link. It has Dark Days Indeed, Man on the Burning Tightrope, Some Strange Reaction, Too Many Angels, and an interview.

You can buy AACs of songs from the albums "Get Off The Cross", "Songs We Should Have Written", "The Man On The Burning Tightrope", and both the Jetset and Universal versions of "The Ponzi Scheme" from the Apple iTunes store. I can't give you a link, since you can only access it through the program iTunes.

An MP3 of "Anything At All" from the album "The Man on the Burning Tightrope" can be downloaded from Amazon.com for free. It could also be downloaded from Jetset,, but that MP3 link is now dead, however the page does have working links to clips from the earlier albums on the same page.

Some sample MP3s from "Songs We Should Have Written" are available at Vibromonk (updated link 6/11/05).

Here's the Epitonic Firewater page, which helpfully has an MP3 of Get Out of My Head at the time of this writing. Even more helpfully, it appears to be a demo mix of the song. The demolicious version is also available at Insound, certainly through this general "F" page, but maybe through this link more directly… And this link seems to lead to it from a place called Free MP3 for download, but it may simply be leeching one of the other sites since it seems like a hidden redirect.

Firewater.tv has the album "The Man on the Burning Tightrope" playing using a Shockwave file as a player front end, so you can listen to the whole album. They also have Woke Up Down and Get Out of My Head videos at this page.

Clips from the Firewater albums Songs We Should Have Written and The Man On The Burning Tightrope, http://www.vibromonk.com/cd%20pages/Firewater.htm.

Here is a long and good video of Firewater live at the Paleo Festival. It's about 40 megs, but worth it. There's also an edit which is under 7 megs.

Here is a site with an audio clip of Tod on Psychopharmacology and death, along with a collection of hooks from the album and a dumb call out of the website address.

(WORKING 6/11/05) This page at Jetset has the eCard video of Get Out Of My Head (Ritalin Mix) (or go straight to the Shockwave file), unlike the now dead Terminal Jive page that used to be my link for it.

This page has Firewater playing Get Out of My Head live at Pier 86 in NYC 6/26/2002. It's available as a stream or as a download in Real Media format. There are also stills.

The link that follows seems to be a way to download the Ponzi Scheme through what looks like a horrible, horrible service called Pressplay, full of proprietary formats that aren't MP3s, aren't supported on Macs, that you have to pay to stream music through and seem to only be able to keep for an additional $1 a song. Stay away from this link. UPDATE 6/11/05: Now it's Napster. And it claims the album title is The Ponzi Theme. Staaaaaaaay awaaaaaaaaaay...

 Who knows what's here.

Cop Shoot Cop Links:

My Cop Shoot Cop page in this site.

Here is CSC co-founder Phil Puleo's Cop Shoot Cop site. Which contains a wealth of CSC knowledge, as well as some tasty MP3s and images. There are also things he will sell you related to CSC, specifically the Red Expendables CD (Red X being the short lived incarnation of CSC after Tod left) and a new live CD-R from 1991. And now an even newer live CD-R. It may now be easier to find the store links by going to http://www.copshootcop.com.

Here's a fine discography with some interesting images of CSC and related bands, apparently from Germany.

Here's a 1992 interview.

A German(?) intervju with CSC (so, it's been translated into German). It also has a short MP3 of the interview, actually in English, of Natz talking, I think.

Video for Room 429 at Richard Kern's site. Well, it's actually an animated gif of images from the video, but it's still there.

Here's a Russian site with CSC lyrics. Why is there a Russian site with CSC lyrics? Who knows! Similar lyric content is here.

Here's an extensive Italian page on Cop Shoot Cop. Check out the cool pic involving the Release cover art, with some band members (counter clockwise from upper left I think it's Tod, Phil and Cripple Jim) and, presumably, Genice (the artist responsible) .

Here's a guitar tab of Everybody Loves You When you're Dead.

Occasionally I'll see a reference to KJ Grant being with Cop Shoot Cop at some point. It often comes up in relation to the Elliot Sharp record Tectonics. Also "Beneath the Valley of the Ultra Yahoos". KJ Grant appears to be a woman. My best guess is KJ Grant is "Killjoy", who provided "voice" on White Noise on the track "Empires Collapse" and "aahs" on "Room 429". Kinda tenuous to list her as a CSCer on your eBay auctions, I think…

Here's a song here called Cop Shoot Cop by Jerry Joseph and the Jackmormons. It could be the theme song to the true life bio pic of Cop Shoot Cop… except that it is a Spiritualized song about drug use. It used to be available to download there, but no longer.

Here is my old Cop Shoot Cop discography. It's been pretty much superceded by my new Cop Shoot Cop page.

Related Links:

Here's a link to CSC-ers Phil Puleo and Jim Coleman's Audio Dyslexia project, also involving Carolyn Honeychild Coleman, Hjohn Nowlin of Barkmarket, and Tim Bradlee of the Spitters. Or more specifically, here. Jim is not active in the current lineup. They were said to be having a CD coming out soon, with rough MP3s on the site, but that info is sseemingly gone. Instead there are still mp3s there.

Lubricated Goat (link dead last I checked) does in fact now feature Jack Natz of Cop Shoot Cop (and someone from the Spitters, which means both Audio Dyslexia and Lubricated Goat feature members of CSC and the Spitters). Buy Great Old Ones, which features Natz.

My page of links and info on CSC-er Jack Natz''s Black Snakes. Inexplicable to have a page devoted to a group markedly less important than Cop Shoot Cop or Firewater when there's not a similar page for CSC or Firewater here yet? You bet!

Natz was in a group called Razor Chamber before CSC or the Blacksnakes, which can be found here. Natz played on three of the MP3s that can be found on that page; Clay People, Untitled and The Sky Is Crying. They were "recorded live in rehearsal on December 21, 1986 in NYC" according to Greg Fasolino.

My page of links and info on Phil Puleo and Tod A.'s Dig Dat Hole.

My page of links and info on Tod's Shithaus, with the famous Jon Spencer.

CSCer Dave Ouimet was in Motherhead Bug, for which I have a page.

Here's Phil Puleo's solo stuff in the form of WOG. Or, more specifically, here. Phil puts up different and interesting MP3s here, so check it out occasionally for interesting sonic bits you've missed.

Phil Puleo has done lots with the Swans and projects closely associated with the Swans. Here's a page about the Angels of Light's record "New Mother" (buy from Amazon) which Phil appears on, including an MP3 which may or may not relate to Phil. The main relevant label is Young God Records; search on that site for Puleo and you'll get some hits (including an interview I did with Michael Gira in 1997). Phil was also on the live album "Swans Are Dead" by the Swans, and the Body Lovers "Number One of Three."

Phil Puleo also played with Congo Norvell, but it was only for a summer and I'm having trouble finding a page other than Phil's (link now dead; may be replaceable on Phil's site) that mentions it. Paul Wallfisch of Firewater definitely appeared on the album "Abnormal Anonymous", tho. And Tod did the layout design for that album. So Congo Norvell certainly has its hands in this page's pockets…

Here's Invisible's page for Jim Coleman's project Phylr. They've released two CDs of Phylr, "Contra La Puerta" and "Halflife", as well as a number of V/A comps with Phylr tracks, including a Dead Kennedies tribute CD. Jim tells me Phylr is more or less done with, however. But hey, so is Cop Shoot Cop. (Buy Contra La Puerta from Amazon.) (Buy Half Life from Amazon.)

Here's a page of MP3s from SinnerG (link dead), featuring Jim Coleman doing the music. Micheline Van Hautem provided vocals, and it was her page that was hosting the information. As "SinnerG" is an obvious leetspeak spelling, it makes it difficult to search for any more references to it. I don't think even Phil's site has any references to it anymore. So this may be the last online evidence of the grouping. MP3s they released were named City, Claws, Cookie, Friend (Remix), and Peach. My ID3 tags say City was from something called "Dry".

Jim Coleman is (was? 6/11/05) currently playing solo shows as Coleman.

Jim Coleman was in Here (with someone from Meathead), and you can find mp3s from Here's "A Bit of Red" EP here (link dead). Two of them are free; the rest require payment (only one of the pay tracks isn't on "Brooklyn Bank", however; I'm unsure if they are the same recordings or not). Here's a review of the Here album "Brooklyn Bank" (1999). That album seems to come from Fringecore, with more information on this page. However, it also comes from Invisible. It turns out the album also has CSC-er Dave Ouimet on it, in addition to Scott McCloud of Girls Against Boys, Rock Savage of Barkmarket, Bill Bronson of the Swans, Carolyn Honeychild Coleman, and Lydia Lunch.

(Buy Brooklyn Bank from Amazon.)

Jim Coleman has also put out a Domestic Landscapes record on Nail Records. I recently bought one of them. Maybe I'll say something about it once I listen to it. Or maybe I listened to it ages ago and forgot to put anything in here…

Jim Coleman is involved with Jim Thirlwell's Baby Zizanie. Here's a link in French (link dead). They are doing some tour dates in Europe in late May 2003. I have created a Baby Zizanie page. It includes the tour dates from 2003, and a discography for the record.

Jim Coleman has been doing a lot of music work for television, including a TLC program on Miami Crime Scene Investigation. The WOG also says he's worked for Court TV, Verizon, and Minolta.

Jim Coleman appears as part of Ryful (with Hal Hartley) on the soundtrack of Hartley's film "The Book of Life." At least according to this Matador page (dead link; in fact, Matador's European site seems to be entirely gone. Ouch.).

Here is the Firewater-related (by sharing drummer Tamir Muskat ) band Big Lazy's page

Here is the Firewater-related band (by sharing Paul Wallfisch) Botanica's page.

Tamir related site http://www.vibromonk.com/Index.htm.

Sideproject J.U.F. of Tamir or something can be found here with some MP3s. (Buy Gogol Bordello vs. Tamir Muskat from Amazon.)

Tamir and Ori's http://www.balkanbeatbox.com. (Buy Balkan Beat Box from Amazon.)

I think people from Firewater are in Gogol Bordello, but I've never been able to rouse any interest in myself over them.

(Buy Gypsy Punks from Amazon.)

(Buy East Infection from Amazon.)

(Buy Voi-La Intruder from Amazon.)

(Buy Multi Kontra Culti vs. Irony from Amazon.)

(Buy When the Trickster Starts a Pokin from Amazon.)

Paul Wallfisch has a solo album on Acetate Records. You can find MP3s from it here (link dead).

Firewater's Zef appears on C. Gibbs and the Cardia Brothers "The Pinkermen Set", an MP3 of which can be found at Rubric Records.

Shot'nez is a band involving a bunch of Firewater types (specifically Ori and Tamir). Their page is http://www.shotnez.com/home.html and they have some MP3s here.

Here's some info on CSC-er Natz's old band "The Black Snakes".

This reminds me; semi-(in)famous photographer Richard Kern was also in the Black Snakes; his photography site (warning: artful punk nudity) is here. Some music from CSC (in "X is Y"; it's just "Disconnected 666" tho), Jim Coleman of CSC (in "The Bitches") and from the Black Snakes (in "Submit To Me Now") appear on the DVD of his cinema of transgression DVD "The Hardcore Collection" (available from places like Amazon (buy the Richard Kern DVD from Amazon)and Kern's own site). Natz makes an appearance in "Submit to Me Now" as well. Kern also directed the video for CSC's "Room 429", but it and his other purely music videos are not included on The Hardcore Collection. The Richard Kern site seems largely abandoned (while still up and working), but he has a new, more porn like site at http://www.newnudecity.com. I don't think that site has any of the CSC videos on it. If it does, someone can tell me and I'll sign up for a month...

(Buy the Kern book Soft from Amazon.)

(Buy the Kern book Kern Noir from Amazon.)

(Buy the book Richard Kern from Amazon.)

Dave Ouimet's side project Sulfur has a limited page here. (link dead but keeping it as a reference to the existence of the related band).

Tod was supposed to do something with poet Nicole Blackman (new link). What, precisely, is unclear. But then the piece also says Raymond Watts wasn't going to do music anymore, and he's been on tour with KMFDM since the article, so there you go… (I think this predates Nicole Blackman's appearance on "The Man on the Burning Tightrope".)

Tod was supposedly involved in the Tapeworm project, according to this page.

According to a 1996 piece around an interview with Jim Thirlwell here, Tod left CSC to form the Pariahs with Kurt Wolf of Pussy Galore and Loudspeaker. Thirlwell also claims that Natz had kinda taken over CSC in the wake of Tod leaving.

Dana Leong, touring trombone guy, has a page of downloads of his own stuff at this link.

Mail me at thetodhole@netscape.net; it's not gonna get checked very often, and when it is checked, you will likely get ignored (note: the account seems to not work now in an odd way; it claims my session has expired whenever I try to sign in; so I probably need to make a new disposable email address for there...).

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More Circus Peanuts here (older) and here (newer) and here (newest)

 

 

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