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100 People Who Are Screwing Up America
CHINA AND IRAN ARE GETTING TO BE THE BEST OF FRIENDS
WHO ARE BEHIND THESE TERRORISTS WHO HATE AMERICA
WHO WOULD RATHER SEE TERRORISM SUCCEED THAN A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT.
A DICTATORSHIP AMERICA MAY SOON SUPPORT
AMERICAN TROOPS
SUPPORT FOR OUR TROOPS NEVER STRONGER
WHILE SERVING IN IRAQ LAST YEAR
1979 IRANIAN HOSTAGE CRISIS RETURNS TO THE PRESENT
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A WAR MASSACRE HARDLY COVERED BY THE AMERICAN NEWS MEDIA
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THE LUCKY FROG
 
 
HELPING  DICTATORSHIPS  IS  NOT  GOOD  PRESS  FOR  THE  UNITED  STATES  GOVERNMENT.
 
"US, Vietnam eye closer bonds 10 years after normalizing relations" story below.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Laurie" <bill_laurie@yahoo.com>
Subject:     Earth to Hanoi:  Read A Legitimate History Book

Click on this one for article on smoke and mirrors
charade of Hanoi's,"new" regulations on religion.
These techniques and approaches used in Eastern Europe
and Soviet Union, before it dawned on them that
communism was stupid, and barbaric:

http://www.forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=598&printer=Y
 

Paris Peace Accords http://home.earthlink.net/~proudvietnamveteran/americans_working_together/id13.html

Agreement on Ending the War and Restoring Peace in Vietnam, signed in Paris and entered into force January 17, 1973.

AGREEMENT ON ENDING THE WAR AND RESTORING PEACE IN VIET-NAM
The Parties participating in the Paris Conference on Viet-Nam,

With a view to ending the war and restoring peace in Viet-Nam on the basis of respect for the Vietnamese people's fundamental national rights and the South Vietnamese people's right to self- determination, and to contributing to the consolidation of peace in Asia and the world,
http://home.earthlink.net/~proudvietnamveteran/americans_working_together/id13.html

CAN  VIETNAM  BE  TRUSTED.  THEY  BROKE  THE  LAST  TREATY  AMERICA  SIGNED  WITH  THEM...   AND  THEY  ARE  STILL  A  NATION,  WHERE  ITS  PEOPLE  HAVE  NO  FREEDOMS,   ESPECIALLY  FREEDOM  OF  RELIGION.   THE  VIETNAMESE  PEOPLE  CAN  NOT  VOTE.   THERE  ARE  NO  FREEDOM  OF  SPEECH,  FREEDOM  OF  THE  PRESS,  ETC.  ETC.   

     THE  UNITED  STATES  GOVERNMENT  STANDS  FOR  HUMAN  RIGHTS  AROUND  THE  WORLD.  BEFORE  OUR  TWO  NATIONS  BECOME  CLOSER,  WHAT  HUMAN  RIGHTS  WILL  TODAY'S  VIETNAM  GIVE  HER  PEOPLE...?
 
HELPING  DICTATORSHIPS  IS  NOT  GOOD  PRESS  FOR  THE  UNITED  STATES  GOVERNMENT.
 
Will the Politicians Of The United States Surrender the Vietnamese People To Communism A Second Time?
Here's A Chance That America Can Really Help The Vietnamese People...
Let the Vietnamese People have some real freedoms, and only then should the United States help the Vietnamese Government.   It's all up to the Vietnamese Government.
 
Today around the world, America's military is fighting for the same freedoms that the Vietnamese People do not have...   Here's an opportunity, where American politicians can win these freedoms for the Vietnamese People without calling in our brave military men and women.
 
America's politicians are in position to help get the Vietnamese People the same freedoms that our military are sacrificing for around the world. 
 
Please write to your members of the United States Congress and Senate.   Tell them you want freedoms for the Vietnamese People now...     Do it in honor of all those men and women on The Wall in Washington DC.
   THANKS
 

A massacre during the Vietnam War that few Americans heard about:      http://home.earthlink.net/~ducducvietnamfriends/an_unknown_massacre_in_vietnam/

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US, Vietnam eye closer bonds 10 years after normalising relations

Sun Jul 10, 4:42 PM ET

HANOI (AFP) - Vietnam and the United States mark 10 years of normalised ties on a high after months of progress which has fuelled expectations that relations between the former foes will only grow closer in the decades to come.

On July 11, 1995, president Bill Clinton declared in Washington that his administration was opening diplomatic ties with Vietnam. The next day, the then Vietnamese prime minister Vo Van Kiet made a similar announcement in Hanoi.

The two sides were already cooperating closely on the issue of American soldiers from the Vietnam War missing in action (MIA).

Despite lingering bitter memories of the war which ended in 1975 and left three million Vietnamese and 58,000 Americans dead and vocal hardliners weighing in on both sides, pragmatism had prevailed.

"Clinton decided to renew relations with Vietnam at no political advantage to himself," said his first ambassador in Hanoi, Douglas "Pete" Peterson.

"He saw that as the right thing to do," Peterson said.

Since then, the diplomatic scene has been transformed. Commerce grew multi-fold, especially after the 2000 signing of a bilateral trade agreement and the two sides are negotiating Vietnam's accession to the World Trade Organization (WTO).

They also signed in May an agreement on the highly sensitive issue of religious freedoms in Vietnam. Today, the war is history.

Last month, Prime Minister Phan Van Khai made a landmark US visit, the first by a Vietnamese head of government since the war.

The two sides notably signed an agreement on cooperation in the military domain. More importantly, Khai had a significant tete-a-tete with     President George W. Bush.

Hanoi revised its view of Bush as a warmonger after the meeting.

"Vietnamese leaders were surprised by the quite friendly and open attitude of Bush, even when he was broaching issues considered sensitive," said a Vietnamese diplomat.

"This attitude is different from the image of a president who is often perceived in Hanoi as a hardliner on issues such as IraqAfghanistan and ties with communist countries," the diplomat said.

Washington too learned to look on Hanoi with a kindlier eye. Prime Minister Khai, often visibly ill at ease according to witnesses, had the benefit of the company of many bilingual officials well versed with the West, who knew how to woo the Bush team.

Now, the two sides are looking to the future.

Next year, the US president is expected in Hanoi for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation ( APEC) summit and a bilateral visit.

Everything seems possible henceforth.

"There are still some issues. But I don't think there is anything that cannot be put on the table," said Adam Sitkoff, executive director of the American Chamber of Commerce in Hanoi.

"It's more of a normal relations now."

In the next decade, experts say, relations will be influenced by regional compulsions, especially China, which is both Vietnam's ideological mentor and its historical enemy.

"Anytime you see the emergence of a powerful country in a region, it changes the geopolitical balance and I think China's emergence is an economic power which will spread in other areas," a US observer said, requesting anonymity.

"The stronger China gets, the closer Vietnam and the US will grow together."

That comment was echoed by a high-ranking Vietnamese defense ministry official, who said the scope of the military accord signed in Washington last month could only expand by leaps and bounds.

"For the Vietnamese leadership, China remains a real threat, a predator always ready to devour Vietnam," the official said.

"In such a situation, Vietnam would depend more and more on the world's leading power."

A massacre during the Vietnam War that few Americans heard about:      http://home.earthlink.net/~ducducvietnamfriends/an_unknown_massacre_in_vietnam/

 

http://www.forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=598&amp;printer=Y

This article was published by F18News on: 6 July 2005

COMMENTARY: Vietnam's new religion regulations don't help religious freedom

By Truong Tri Hien, a Christian lawyer who had to flee Vietnam in 2004

Recent government religious regulations provide no basis for religious freedom, Vietnamese Christian lawyer Truong Tri Hien argues in this personal commentary for Forum 18 News Service http://www.forum18.org . Even these contradictory and restrictive documents have been dismissed by oppressive local officials, he reports. Hien was Acting General Secretary of the Mennonite Church in Vietnam and fled his homeland in June 2004, after a warrant was issued to arrest him for "resisting a person performing his duty." The Vietnamese Justice Code states that this includes "threatening to make public information that will be unfavourable to the person doing their duty, or unfavourable to those close to the person doing their duty". Hien had been documenting religious freedom violations. Hien pleads for foreigners to judge the Vietnamese government by its continuing attacks on its own citizens' religious freedom, and to take action to force it to abide by international human rights standards.

 

Freedom of religious belief and practice is a gift of God and a fundamental right guaranteed in international law. In the past year, Vietnam's government has claimed that religious communities will be freer to exercise their rights through the introduction of three legal documents: the Ordinance on Belief and Religion which came into force on 15 November 2004; the Special Instructions Concerning Protestants (01/2005.CT-TTg) issued by the Prime Minister on 4 February 2005; and the Decree on Religion (22/2005/ND-CP) of 1 March 2005, which sets out how the Ordinance is to be implemented.

Some observers hope that religious freedom will now be advanced. Optimists also cite the Vietnamese government's signing on 5 May 2005 of an agreement with the US government on religious freedom. The agreement only happened due to formal US designation of Vietnam as a "Country of Particular Concern" (CPC) for religious freedom violations, with the accompanying threat of CPC sanctions. But what the agreement says is secret and so it is impossible to verify independently either whether it represents real progress, or if any promises made in the agreement are fulfilled. As US Commission for International Religious Freedom vice chair Nina Shea rightly commented, "until there is independent monitoring, any claims of progress on religious freedom should be viewed with scepticism".

The three legal documents offer little evidence for hopes of greater religious freedom. Their provisions overlap and are contradictory, providing a convenient justification for officials at various levels to use discretionary power to oppress religious organisations. In other words, "law" in this context does not mean the rule of law as understood in democracies, but rather the excuses officials use to justify arbitrary actions.

One revealing illustration of the "Catch 22" nature of the documents is the requirements imposed on religious communities to register religious activities and seek legal recognition as a religious organisation, based on Article 16 of the Ordinance, before the state decides whether or not an organisation is religious. Only after this does the state decide on the legality of religious activities – which must, under the law, be recognised as legal before legal recognition can be sought! This poses a serious problem for all religious groups, but particularly for Protestant house churches. Government officials argue that these contradictory requirements are necessary for "maintaining public order and to help religious organisations achieve good results."

"Catch 22" problems don't end there. In order to register religious activity, a religious organisation must have believers. But in order to be a believer, one must be accepted by a religious organisation – which can only exist if it already has state approval. These contradictory requirements stem from article 6, section 2a of the March Decree, which specifies that applications must record the number of believers. Article 3, section 8 of the Ordinance defines a believer as "a person who believes in a religion and [note this requirement] is acknowledged as a believer by the religion". However, the definition of a religious organisation in article 3, section 3 is "an assembly of believers with the same doctrines and ceremonies with a clear structure which is recognised by the State".

In other words, the law says that state recognition is necessary before state recognition can be applied for – and without that, neither religious organisations nor individual believers can legally exist.

Against international standards, Vietnam insists that a religious community "must register its religious activities", thereby rendering unregistered religious activity illegal. But even if a religious community wants to register, who registers it?

Both the Ordinance and the Decree identify the Government Bureau of Religious Affairs and its provincial bureaus as the registration authorities. But article 7 of the Prime Minister's Instructions commands other local officials to "carefully examine to see if there is really a need for religious belief and (if there is) help them (religious believers) to register their religious activities with commune and village or ward officials". This difference between the Prime Minister's Instructions and the Ordinance allowed officials of Binh Khanh Ward in District 2 of Ho Chi Minh City [Saigon] to tell the Vietnamese Mennonite Church that "we will follow the Ordinance. The Prime Minster has issued Instructions but each locality has the authority to grant them or not."

After the arrests of six Mennonite church workers in March 2004, and their subsequent summary trial, the authorities launched a sustained and systematic attempt to close down the church's office and the church that meets there. Between 3 March 2004 and 30 May 2005, the church recorded 77 separate actions against them by police and local officials. Two petitions to the prime minister on the basis of his Instructions have gone unanswered. When the church asked the central Bureau of Religious Affairs how to get state registration, they were referred to the Ho Chi Minh City Bureau. This office provided no guidance, except to (once again) order all religious activities to stop, while officials "consider" the situation.

The use of ambiguous terms and phrases not defined in law, such as Article 16's phrase "do not go against the nation's fine traditions and customs nor against the common benefit of the people" is normal in Vietnamese government documents. "Stable religious activity", another Article 16 phrase, also has no clear meaning in law and is variously interpreted by officials throughout the country. Article 8, section e, of the later March Decree outlines various periods of stable activity. But what does "stable" mean? This word has been used to exclude Protestant house churches, which have been pressured to disband because they are not yet registered and do not have legal recognition. Moreover, some local officials are intentionally confusing the registration of religious activities (allowed in the Prime Minister's Instructions) and the legal recognition of religious organisations.

In practice, "stable" means whatever officials want it to mean. If the authorities accept an application, they require that a religious organisation has 20 years of activity before being eligible for legal recognition. And while waiting for the 20-year period to be completed, the religious organisation must cease its religious activities. If a religious organisation persists in carrying on religious activities it can be charged with illegal religious activity – as happened to the Mennonite Church – or it can be said that the religious organisation is not active and so not eligible for recognition.

The Prime Minister's Instruction has been flouted or downgraded right across the country. In April 2005 in Lu Khau Village in the northern Lao Cai Province, the authorities began proceedings to seize the land of 12 Christian families from the Hmong minority. The reason given was that they were Christians. Seven officials, including the local police chief, illegally seized the families' land and beat up family members, including a 70-year old woman. Officials offered financial rewards to get one family to give up Christianity, tied up one man with wire and left him in the hot sun, and boasted that they would next target another 32 Christian families. When one man went to Hanoi and brought back the Prime Minister's Special Instruction Concerning Protestants, local authorities refused to recognise it and taunted him. On 4 July, a lawyer in Vietnam told me that 10 of the 12 families had signed papers recanting their faith, to get their land back.

Since becoming Christians and joining the Assemblies of God in late March, 2005, Le Thi Kim Son, of Thoi Thanh Commune in the southern Ben Tre province, and her extended family have experienced extreme and persistent ridicule, harassment, death threats and physical attacks at the hands of hamlet, commune and district officials, often drunk and acting in concert. Son's mother, who is a widow of a "martyr of the revolution" has had her pension benefits rescinded. Christians injured by attacks from officials are warned by local doctors that they will not be treated, while children of Christian families are denied tuition subsidies. Many petitions asking for redress from local officials have not been accepted. When officials were shown a copy of the Prime Minister's Instruction, the Christians were told it was a fake document and it was seized for a threatened lawsuit against them.

Many other problems are thrown up by the latest legal documents, including obstacles to religious organisations having places of worship – of which there is a great shortage due to the state's actions - and having legal representation, which is highly necessary as Vietnam is a state governed not by the rule of law, but by the rule of official arbitrariness.

It is vitally important in assessing Vietnamese religious freedom to look not only at the contradictory and ambiguous nature of government documents – revealing as they are – but also at the government's actual practice, as the examples given illustrate. They are a sample of Vietnamese central and local government actions in 2005, not a comprehensive list. Note that these examples are both widespread across the country and also are not just the actions of oppressive local officials. The central government is heavily involved in oppression.

Also, the examples I've given do not include other kinds of oppression practiced in Vietnam, such as the torture and jailing of religious prisoners of conscience. An example is Baptist pastor Than Van Truong, imprisoned without trial since May 2003 who is right now is incarcerated in a psychiatric hospital and being forcibly administered anti-physchotic drugs. This month, July 2005, the public prosecutor has said that he is not under investigation for crimes and a (since transferred) doctor at the hospital confirmed that Pastor Truong does not suffer from mental illness.

So it is clear that the latest government documents cannot be said to provide favourable conditions for religious freedom. To us Vietnamese in non-registered, non-legal religious organisations, the new documents reveal that the Party and the State are still not satisfied with merely exercising a kind of benign administrative oversight of religion and religious activity. It is still the old pattern of control, restraint, domination and suppression, along with presenting one face to foreign observers and a quite different face to its own citizens. I agree with Catholic Cardinal Jean-Baptiste Pham Minh Man of Ho Chi Minh City, who stated that "it would be better not to promulgate the Ordinance at all".

As a Vietnamese Christian lawyer, I ask that foreign governments and human rights organisations pay more attention to the many victims of the government's religious policy. This is especially important as the Vietnamese central government refuses to honestly stop its continuing persecution of religious believers around the country.

I personally believe that real religious freedom will only be advanced if Vietnam:

- withdraws all repressive legal documents without any exceptions;

- frees all religious prisoners of conscience, as well as religious leaders operating under officially-imposed restrictions;

- allows religious organisations (both registered and unregistered) to freely operate, without any "Catch 22" style complex requirements being imposed on them;

- stops all repressive actions against religious believers and communities;

- brings in the rule of law, instead of the rule of arbitrary official whim, and legally punishes officials who oppress religious people;

- returns or provides fair compensation for property seized from religious communities since 1975;

- and, after it has begun to take all these actions, convenes a roundtable conference with all Vietnamese religious groups (registered and unregistered), as well as independent international human rights observers, to resolve all the outstanding issues of relations between religious communities and the Vietnamese state.

I hope my native country will seriously consider such bold initiatives to make peace with religious communities. However, I believe that external pressure will be necessary. Soon after he was exiled from the Soviet Union in 1974, Alexander Solzhenitsyn urged the outside world not to ignore the human rights violations in his homeland, making his famous plea: "Interfere as much as you can. We beg you to come and interfere." Vietnamese religious believers are waiting to see how far foreign governments and organisations will both judge the government on its actions, not its statements, and also exert real pressure on it to respect international standards instead of allowing it to, as Solzhenitsyn put it, "strangle its citizens in peace and quiet".

- Commentaries are personal views and do not necessarily represent the views of F18News or Forum 18.

(END)

For an analysis and commentary, arguing that trade alone will not bring religious freedom and advocating consistent foreign pressure to support the Vietnamese people's struggle for religious freedom, see F18News 2 February 2004 http://www.forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=242

For an analysis of the Ordinance on Belief and Religion, see F18News 21 September 2004 http://www.forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=415

For a report on state interference in the indigenous Vietnamese religions of Cao Daism and Hoa Hao Buddhism, see F18News 28 July 2004 http://www.forum18.org/Archive.php?article_id=378

A printer-friendly map of Vietnam is available at http://www.nationalgeographic.com/xpeditions/atlas/index.html?Parent=asia&Rootmap=vietna

Truong Tri Hien, a Christian lawyer who had to flee Vietnam in 2004, contributed this comment to Forum 18 News Service. Commentaries are personal views and do not necessarily represent the views of F18News or Forum 18.

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Why are the two teenage boys' in the below picture eyes closed?

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I found this great PTSD article on a military base.   It was in a FAMILY MAGAZINE for American troops.
PTSD does not only hit our military men and women.    It impacts a great number of Americans, who never left home...
Child abuse, elderly abuse, marital abuse, street crime victims (rape), etc. are some of the biggest sufferers.
Understanding PTSD is a great way from keeping it from passing down through generations.
 
 
 

 
 
VICE-CHAIRMAN OF ATTORNEY ETHICS WENT TO TRIAL FOR LEGAL MALPRACTICE AND LOST TO A PTSD VET     http://home.earthlink.net/~ptsd_discrimination/id12.html
 

 
 
MORE  AND  MORE  LIBERAL-DEMOCRAT  LEADERS  ARE  LINING  UP  TO  COMPARE  THIS  WAR  ON  TERRORISM  WITH  THE  VIETNAM  WAR.     SINCE  HOLLYWOOD'S  MOVIES  WERE  MOSTLY  ALL  WRONG  ABOUT  THE  VIETNAM  WAR  AND  YOU  WERE  NOT  TAUGHT  ABOUT  THE  VIETNAM  WAR  IN  SCHOOL,  LEARN  IT  ON  THE  INTERNET...
THE  BELOW  ARTICLES  COME  FROM  THE  BOOK
DIRTY  LITTLE  SECRETS  OF  THE  VIETNAM  WAR
 
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IS  HISTORY  REPEATING  ITSELF...
(Who Are Today's Terrorist Connections?)
 
Two recently discovered documents captured from the Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War strongly support the contention that a close link existed between the Hanoi regime and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) while John Kerry served as the group's leading national spokesman.
 
Researchers Troy Jenkins and Tom Wyld located the two Vietnamese communist documents referenced above in the archives of the Vietnam Center at Texas Tech University, in the Douglas Pike Collection. Douglas Pike was a leading authority on the Vietnam War who collected over 2 million pages of original documents now archived at the Vietnam Center. James Reckner, Ph.D., Director of the Vietnam Center at Texas Tech, verifies that the documents in the Pike collection are original and authentic. The Circular and the Directive are listed as items numbered 2150901039b and
2150901041 respectively.
 
 
 
IS  HISTORY  REPEATING  ITSELF...
(Who Are Today's Terrorist Connections?)
 
Yes, the American Liberal News Media is one connection.
 
 

 

Amnesty International: Insurgents are guilty

The Amnesty International report — "In Cold Blood: Abuses by Armed Groups" — said (terrorist) insurgents were guilty of direct attacks intended to cause the greatest possible loss of civilian life, indiscriminate attacks resulting in the deaths of civilians, targeting humanitarian organizations, abductions and killing captured and defenseless police and military personnel.

"There is no honor nor heroism in blowing up people going to pray or murdering a terrified hostage.  Those carrying out such acts are criminals, nothing less, whose actions undermine any claim they may have to be pursuing a legitimate cause," Amnesty said.

 
Rights Group Denounces Iraqi Insurgents
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A  MASSACRE  FEW  AMERICANS  HAVE  HEARD  ABOUT

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