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(R) Item one...Celibacy, a religious reason? I am a 31 year old male, always
been celibate, why? Who knows!!!
(MB) No decent-looking women around? *grin*
(R) Always been a nice guy, never hurt no one, followed all the commandments, so
, hey, I must be a real christian right?
(MB) The Ten Commandments are actually a part of Jewish law. For example, if
you've ever gone to church on Sunday or worked between sunset on Friday night
and sunset on Saturday night, you haven't kept the Sabbath day holy. Naturally,
Christians wouldn't pay much mind to this.
(R) So I thought, two years ago I went for the catholic priesthood,
looked around for a year and ran home as quick as I could get my coat back
on. Why? Cause 90% of guys in there are those self righteous morons who
think that by spouting out proverbs they can earn a place in heaven, bull.
They all suffered from the second greatest sin, pride.
(MB) One of the other individuals with whom I'm debating this topic continually
tells me that only a minor percentage of Christians behave that way. I guess
your experience would tend to dispute that assertion, eh?
(R) Item two...hunger, how many children starve to death every year? too many,
but for every starving child the are ten priest eating stake dinners, buying new
suits, driving nice cars, telling us the children are dieing because WE dont
(MB) That's another of my gripes with organized religion. If ever there was an
organization that truly needs to "practice what it preaches", it would be
organized religion. One needs only to monitor the activites of Pat Robertson
and the Christian Coalition to see that there's a lot more going on under the
table and behind the scenes than "saving souls".
(R) Item three...HELL, goodness what a scary word, not. If God is your father,
how can he send you to hell? If God is all knowing, then he allowed Hitler to
be born and raised in an environment that created a monster. He allowed Hitlers
brain to shortcircuit, now he's gonna send him to hell for it? No way.
(MB) That's part of one of the classic arguments (the argument from the
existence of evil) against the existence of God. Briefly, if God is omnipotent,
omniscient, and benevolent and is responsible for creating the universe and
everything in it, then anything that happens in the universe takes place because
that's the way he wants it to be. This includes evil, pain, suffering and all
other disagreeable things. It also includes atheism, blasphemy, heresy, and
disbelief. If everything and everybody exists and behaves because of God's
will, how can God exact punishment upon anything in his creation? In effect, he
would be blaming something else for his own failures. Yet, God, by definition,
cannot fail or do anything wrong. One can only conclude either that God does
not exist or that he is not as he is described.
(R) Last item for today, is there a God?...........no.......what kind of
unfeeling bastard could stand by and watch people suffer like this? Is it not a
sign of weakness to believe someone else is responsible for the good in your
life? Cant I take credit for being one of the good guys because I WANT TO BE A
GOOD GUY, not because i'm scared of punishment?
(MB) Of course you can! If one rejects the standard notion of God, then he
becomes responsible for his own life and actions and can freely accept the
rewards and punishments that accompany them. If one accepts the standard notion
of God, then, in effect, he abandons all responsibility for himself and becomes
a robot who is totally dependent on the whims of that entity.
(R) thats all for now , and yet with all this anti-religious feeling in me, i
think there is something up there................maybe i'm just weak
(MB) No, it just means that you're agnostic about the general idea of
supernatural entities, but are still open to all possibilities -- as am I.
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