"Two characteristics of fanatics are they care not whom they harm, nor consider the consequences beyond the immediate moment." - Restivo
Mike Restivo in a post to alt.freemasonry Dec 30, 1998
Astronomer Carl Sagan wrote of those living in demon-filled worlds; others have written of those who suffer from a persecution complex to the point of inability to function in real life. At times, these thoughts waft through the mind as we contemplate the words of Mike Restivo in our daily perusal of the alt.freemasonry usenet newsgroup.
While we have no knowledge of Mike's 'real-world' life except tangentially from certain personal facts about himself which he seems to share for effect (now more frequently peppered with braggadocio about his sexual exploits - something that seems to have little contact with reality), we can draw certain conclusions from his behavior online.
A telling example was posted to the alt.freemasonry newsgroup in mid-June, 2001. In support of yet another of those anonymous posters who hide behind mailing blinds and pseudonym in order to degrade Freemasonry Mike stated:
"Ed King needs your full particulars if possible so that he can deploy his extortion business. You better shut up or he will put up a page about you on his anti-Masonic hate web site. Not good enough? How about phone calls to your employer or loved one making allegations or suggestions about your sexual preferences, mailed photos of you doctored to appear as if you are frequenting a homosexual club or soliciting the sexual favours of prostitutes and/or young boys. Rumours that you have
One cannot but be aghast at the way that Mike Restivo builds this scenario using such blatant logical fallacies. He has no evidence whatsoever that we have ever even considered such heinous actions. His suggestions to others about these matters however shows the desperateness of his arguments.
Certainly I can't be surprised at the viciousness and outright libel which Mike Restivo displays. In a message in December, 1998, for example, he advised a non-Mason:
"Potential applicants are not told that if they leave the Order, information obtained about them might be used by Masonic enforcers to discredit them or disrupt their personal and professional lives."
Mike was challenged to provide one -
just one - example of such behavior. He has not - and yet he continues his smear campaign of insinuation and innuendo.
Some examples of Mike's 'being himself' follow:
(a Mason who, due to personal circumstances, keeps his online identity anonymous
most of the time but who is well-known as a long-time moderator of the
soc.org.freemasonry newsgroup) in December, 1996 (the first point at which
records appear of Mike Restivo posts in Usenet, none
appearing in the March, 1995 through November, 1996 Google
Look up the meaning of the word "theoretically",
that is if you can devote some time away from the devil's work of virus
design. (....) You do not understand the principles of Freemasonry which
would never countenance threats upon any individual. You are a rogue
Mason or an imposter.
and in another message:
Show me where I have written ALL Masons are bigots.
Only some are, but many more are guilty by association and passive
acquiescence to racism, letting the prejudiced do the dirty work of which they
are too faint of heart to do themselves.
and one of Mike's earliest ROGUE MASON name-calling
on the alt.freemasonry newsgroup - LONG before Ed King
began regularly posting there and well before this site exposing him came into
existence - he wrote in December, 1996 to akma:
I describe you as a rogue Mason, that is one who is
misrepresenting the morality of Freemasonry, while attempting to justify said
prevarications from the Craft, as acceptable. Rogue in that context is a
moral judment <sic> not a legal judgment. You could be a
rogue or criminal in the legal sense too, it remains to be demonstrated and/or
note: Please observe that here - in one of his very first
encounters with another person on a Usenet newsgroup, Mike Restivo takes a
belligerent and aggressive attitude, branding the person who had the temerity to
challenge one of his 'spins' as a "Rogue Mason". This is the
standard Mike Restivo behavior - and is repeated time and time again!
Please note also: this post is made two years before this
site's author (the subject of frequent Restivo claims of 'targeting') began
posting regularly on alt.freemasonry and was 18 months before this website was
created. Let's look at some more of Mike's name calling:
Mason Ted Morganthaler in December, 1996:
An adult of mature mind should have his or her course of
action not determined by childish fears and/or ignorance. (Referring to
1997, a Mason (Peter Pedrotti) attempted to explain Mike Restivo's
already observable aberrant behavior. He gave three options, the
first being that Mike Restivo was "... an ordinary anti-Masonic
bigot....". He further wrote:
Restivo started as a fledgling bigot, did actually join a Lodge
knowing it was flawed, tried to proselytize its membership with his
insulting views about changing into the sort of group he could approve
of, was politely told by some ingrates to stuff it, matured into a
full-feathered idiot and now has proceeded with his campaign in this
arena. We should ignore him."
it, that within a month of Mike Restivo's commencement of posting on
the alt.freemasonry newsgroup, one of the 'regulars' from back then
had him 'pegged'.... And you thought it was all about Mike
Restivo and Ed King....
(Michael Stiler) a few days later wrote:
the name of God, Restivo! You've got to be the most boring,
long-winded, whining poster on this newsgroup!! Is there
*anything* on God's green earth that you _don't_ complain
(Masonicinfo Note: This was
at a time when Danny Sale, Joken (a/k/a Ken Mitchell), Acacia Press,
Raybert and many others mentioned on this site were 'in their
can be observed, Mike's behavior has been
observable to all LONG before he came into contact with
But let's continue with some more examples wherein we can see
Mike overflowing with the milk of human kindness:
comments confirm that I made the morally right decision. (About his
leaving his Lodge.)
other propagandists, can't resist instructing your fellow Masons, as if they
were not capable of independent and critical thought themselves. Posting
another's elitist and exclusionary views does not make yours and his any less
bigoted, notwithstanding euphemisms like "disputatious",
"select", "false step may be fatal", which fail to conceal
the racism of which they are the metaphors.
Mason Bob Dennis in January, 1997:
repost all 600,000+ bytes of my engagements with Masonic apologists, including
you, right here with ease. (Masonicinfo Note: the
bragging of his 'verbal prowess' is another of Mike's claims to fame.)
is your game and I have the proof furnished by yourself.
a Mason only identified as "Bill" Mike Restivo bragged (lamented?) in
contended with self-proclaimed Masonry advocates for almost two years on
Compuserve and been met with a coordinated plan of deception, evasion and
theatrical tactics which have no place in the court of truth. Armed with
megabytes of proof, I remain convinced that Freemasonry allows a
"culture", which culture confirms its members by peer pressure such
that the very virtues of leadership that should be cultivated, are in fact
stultified into follow along obedience..."to go along to get along."
Mason Rick Read in January, 1998:
It is the vain illusion
of instant superiority granted under the auspices of Masonic Initiation that
blinds men to the fact that the practice of their morality is often at a level
inferior to that of the profane and cowans which they dispise. <sic>
An irony to which they are oblivious and to which they are involuntarily
Ermel in September, 1998:
Your moral integrity evaporated as you descended into gutter tricks and
lies, all easily exposed. I could repost my corrections of your posts
to me. It would be informative of the trickery
exemplified by rogue Masons. It is a morality
beneath contempt, but one which consistently has backfired and
debased the lot of you for years. What is that to me that you are
compelled to wallow in the gutter? Am I
forcing your hand? It is you who inserts
himself in an attack against me, and I'll take this opportunity to
reproof your errors, so that the results of
sin may be made evident. Get out of the gutter and
get into grace. I like to give you hints, because I suspect that
you are too convulsed with vindictiveness and cultism to apprehend the
Jackson in December, 1998:
I've followed your profile for a year or so, and
reprimanded you twice over your belligerent demeanour, but to no avail. Who is
to blame? You? Oh no, blame Restivo for your troubles.
And there are, of course, many, many, many more examples.
We'll add some more as time allows.
|There are a few who (before the
pornography incident) might have believed Mike's assertions that he
had never written critically about Freemasonry, preferring instead to
merely heap insult on Masons. Take a look at this message published in
alt.freemasonry in February, 1998:
You want to join something about which its
members are silent??? That response is the mark of a cult.
If you want to join an anti-Christian mind control cult, then phone
your local Masonic lodge, listed in the telephone directory.
In some cases, It may be necessary to contact a lodge in a near-by
city. They will put a local member in contact with you.
Note well, they now have your phone number and other particulars
about you. Play along or else you will be vilified to protect
the Order by fanatical henchmen who can be viewed in the
alt.freemasonry news group and on Compuserve message boards. You
have been warned. Research Freemasonry at length, pro and con,
before putting yourself in psychological bondage to them.
Never be in a hurry to make a mistake that you may regret, or that
may subject you or your loved ones to reprisals by these cultists.
Do you know that if you do not follow the
Masonic party line of denying Jesus' Gospel and embrace of Paganism,
you will be targeted for intimidation or worse, like character
assassination or extortion? Another cult mark is the Masonic
behavior of shunning former members and attacking critics of the
Weigh well the exposure that you give to a
devious and dangerous group whose real tools are behavioural
programming, peer pressure and deception. If you are an
occultist, be advised that they are bankrupt of any supernatural or
spiritual secrets of higher knowledge. You would be better to
apply directly to a magical order rather than wasting your time
imitating the presumption of poseurs for whom state theatrics pass
for theosophy (i.e. knowledge of God).
A search in Deja News under "restivo"
will make available over a hundred recent messages that will easily
shed much more light upon your request than the false promises of
Freemasonry. - Mike Restivo
In fact, on Compuserve in August, 1996 he
I've written over half a
megabyte of Masonry-critical communications publicly in this
Section. My positions are well established on New Age and Masonic
So in one breath he brags about his "Pro-Masonic" essays in
an another, brags about his bashing of Masonry. Isn't he just a
and he wonders why we love him so!
You might also wish to see our FAQ item on
this very issue here!
We'll add some more outstanding examples of
Mike Restivo's insults as time permits. We believe, however, that these
should give the interested reader a primer on his aggressive and offensive
behavior so as to dispel any thoughts that it is the Masons or any individual
Mason which has caused Mike to arrive at his present state of agitation. And
should any question arise as to Mike simply reacting to his imagined persecution
on Compuserve (as referenced above) we'll also provide some quotes from there to
illustrate the point that Mike Restivo is an angry individual seeking attention.
One may also find a considerable amount of
'diversion' or 'partial representation' of facts in material presented by Mike
Restivo. Consider, for example, this:
Mason Michael Poll wrote to Mr. Restivo the
M.R.P. "Is there
some reason that you do not want to come down too very hardly on Craft Masonry
and yet do not want to give up your anti position ? Maybe because you
NEEDED Craft Masonry for you to join the Martinists ?"
to which Mike Restivo replied:
have only been required by one Martinist Order which merged with the Martinist
Order of Paris in 1965. The Martinist Order of which I am a member has never
required, nor recommended Masonic embership. It has never excluded women or
individuals based on race or ethnicity. It has never charged for Initiations.
Neither it nor the
Martinist Order which I incorporated several years ago has ever misrepresented
the Holy Bible, but commended its members to be active in their faiths. The
Martinist Order of which I am Grand Master requires that its applicants and
members be Christians. It's good that you have access to some of my Web
Compare and contrast that reply to this one:
Now I have
only 90 days membership in the Craft; just the Initiations,
that's it. I was interested in the C.B.C.S.
and needed Master Mason qualification
for consideration. Otherwise I would not have joined, as the
Craft had nothing to teach me. I was interested in the Scottish
Rectified Rite, of which the C.B.C.S. and the
Profession are higher grades within it, and still
am, although I have not studied its rituals yet.
Just a bit contradictory, isn't it? Typical
of the Mike Restivo obfuscation. Also consider that Mike's Martinist
organization which he incorporated in 1984 has only ever had one member:
himself! With this type of deceit, it's easy to see why Mike can claim so
many different things about his position on so many different matters
For more 'Fun
with the Martyr', select one of these: