So I had a couple email
exchanges with and one very brief phone call with this ‘prospect’ in the realm of online dating and Yahoo and shite like that.
The feelings of dismay and frustration and … more of a ‘I can not believe that of all people it has been two THERAPISTS who
have done this….. once in april… here is the BLOG snip from back then…
This blog (http://home.earthlink.net/~justinthered/outofchaos/2004.04.01_arch.html)
had a
nice date with a sweet heart the other day and...
She indicated there was not 'that spark' ... I thought
about it and determined I have given up on the special spark, the special spark makes great summer time lovers but... my take
is that there are people with whom there are the Celestine moments with, more of an clarity with and then there are people
whom are sincere, loving, and capable of having relationships with integrity and compassion and communication. Both are just
as valid and in the long term... what I seek. As has been said, dancing can happen anytime any age... can't always ski or
race motorcycles or rewire the electric and reroof the garage.
That special spark seems more pheromone driven,
more bacchanalian in roots. It is an interesting question... what does one want in life in a partner? How many same activities
are needed to be good? How many activities that are different are needed so each person has their own life? As I date folks
that have tons of the same things in common and just a few things that are in common... I realize that the 'what is in common'
question is a bit of an attachment to preconceived ideas about finding a someone whom may not exist. A person may come along
and if my mind is focused on this particular shopping list of attributes... I would suspect I would miss that person; she
would walk right on by. What a drag that could be eh?
But if I step back and look for attributes that
are in nature, not as specific as 'riding a mountain bike around Walker Ranch Trails as fast as I' or 'can sport climb 5.10
and up' and look for attributes that are at the foundation level of a person's being... like 'communicates from the 'I' place
and owns feelings' and 'laughs at life's triumphs and tragedies so as to have a lightness of being' and has 'a tenacity for
trying new things and sticking it out when the going gets hard' then I think I could be more fruitful in locating a person
with whom a long lasting friendship companionship and rewarding times can be with.
Cause you never know until you are there, where
there is going to be.
> Les deviations dans la vie, sont-ils les
avenues vraies ou les avenues fausses ?
or
> The deviations in life, are they the true road or
the false road?
It amazes me the people
who look for a certain something, a complete set of a certain something as being the damn winning ticket. Pejorative word
here is COMPLETE… Like the Lottery, it just will not occur unless you get struck
by lightening which is just as likely to occur! Here is an excerpt from a mail I received today from an attractive young lady
whom I have not met in person, only some pics online and some email exchanged… albeit trite emails, aka not really getting
into questions and answers… more like brochure level sales pitches…
Hi Justin...I spent some time on your BLOG and found
it quite interesting and stimulating...I think we have
alot in common. I also checked out the photos and am
just not feeling that spark of chemistry so necessary
in pursuing a romantic relationship. Best of luck in
your journey!
Turns out she is a therapist
just like the first similar entry in my BLOG back in April that I reprinted above... a person looking for a SPARK… So, why
do therapists seem to fall into this direction of ‘there is no spark’ that is so amazing today… to state a grand assessment
after looking at a couple of pictures and stating that ‘your BLOG interested me and we do have a lot in common but there just
is not that spark’ How does one get a sense of chemistry from a photo? That is to me like voting for president based on TV
ads from only CBS. Or buying books because the cover has cool pictures… or like the Great Gatsby.. when it is discovered that
the Nuevo rich with the big awesome looking library, just have books that have never been opened as all the pages are uncut
or was it actually completely blank? The books were for show, the room was never used, just taking up space like sawdust in
McDonalds hamburgers…
Well sharing my enthusiastic
disbelief with my housemate and his spark or significant lady… who’s mom was/is a therapist, T- put it best that ‘therapists
do what they do because it is easier for them to ‘fix’ others then to fix them selves… tell you what Justin, if someone comes
along to ‘date’ and turns out she is a therapist… RUN. They will constantly second guess, cross examine and doubt the motive
of everything, they can never just let it ‘be’’. Hmmmm good advice T.
This all made me think
of IRON JOHN (http://www.butler-bowdon.com/ironj.htm) and the story of the Boy With The Golden Hair… where one aspect is that
the boy is enthralled his own image, a reflection in the water rather then dealing with what is real. Of course water can
be a symbolic to soul or spirit and thereby could say that the individual is enthralled with the concept more then the tactile
actual empirical experiential or in other words, rather then deal with the direct soul.. attempt to deal with an image transposed,
or … just not about to get the hands dirty by living life and so will be found just sitting there all wrapped up in a concept…
Like Buddhist texts talk about, if you try to meditate on the perception of what to meditate is to be, the act of meditating
is lost as the what IS IN THE MOMENT will be not allowed as the person tries to attain the preconceived notion….
I kept digging more
in google and found a reference (http://www.cgjungpage.org/content/view/17/28/1/3/) to the myth in CG Young web Page. Which in doing a few more digs about
the www.google.com I found Here is a neat link… it is about the TEN pitfalls not to do in dating…. Obviously cognitive therapy related.
http://www.aish.com/dating/advice/Dating_Advice_109_-_The_Missing_Spark.asp
This I am including
in full the one snipped set …
<SNIP>
Dear Rosie & Sherry,
I'm in a difficult quandary. I've been dating a wonderful man
for two months. The problem is, we have now stopped dating. Why? Because he doesn't have that feeling of butterflies, of romance,
of excitement.
I must admit that while I don't feel those things either, we
have so much in common (life goals and values), and have fun together, both respect each other a great deal, and feel physical
attraction to each other.
So my question is: Is that "spark" able to be created? Or is
it just there, or not there?
I feel like I'm losing someone really special because of this
abstract thing. Any advice would be appreciated.
Ellen
Dear Ellen,
Images of romance fostered by novels, movies and TV have created
a generation of men and women who have very unrealistic expectations about their relationships. The truth is that the "spark"
that this man was looking for is an overrated myth. It isn't necessary for a courtship, nor for the majority of happy, loving,
enduring marriages, it wasn't ever present.
Yes, there are some people who feel an intense, almost instant
attraction... "fireworks," "electricity," a "spark." They feel drawn to each other even though they know nothing about each
other's values, personal qualities, expectations, or if their personalities are compatible. It could be that they have a strong
"chemical" reaction, or a personal "magnetism" that makes them feel as if they've known each other all their lives.
Is this instant attraction a barometer by which we could measure
the likelihood that two people have met their future life partners? Of course not! The vast majority of people who feel a
strong connection from the outset end up breaking up a few months later. That's because the "electricity" wears off, and when
it does, many of these people realize that they don't have very much in common, nor do they share values or life goals. Frequently
they were so blinded by infatuation that they didn't see that the other person had serious flaws, or that they never developed
more than a superficial connection.
Sometimes, two people who feel an instant attraction stay together
for the long haul. That's because they were fortunate enough to have compatible values, goals and personalities, and because
these qualities enabled them to build depth to their relationship. When the infatuation faded, they may not have even noticed
because they had gradually built a close, trusting, emotionally intimate friendship that became the cornerstone of their marriage.
As we mentioned earlier, the majority of couples who achieve
this level of emotional intimacy completely skip the "sparks." These relationships develop gradually. Sometimes, they are
interested in each other from the time they first meet, and other times, it takes a few dates before they realize there may
be possibilities between them. Some people don't even feel physical attraction until their second, third or fourth date, when
they recognize that their dating partner's looks are "growing" on them. Over a month or two or three, these fortunate men
and women realize that they care very much for each other, accept each other's strengths and weaknesses, and share the gifts
of emotional connection, mutual respect and admiration, and physical attraction.
Some people may call this sensation "falling in love," but
we don't like to use this term. That's because genuine love between a man and a woman develops during marriage, as they go
through life's ups and downs together. A couple that shares these qualities, as well as compatible goals and values, has the
foundation for a great marriage.
It seems that you and the man you were dating were moving toward
such a relationship. Not only is it a shame that he broke up with you because a mythical expectation never materialized, but
if he continues to embrace this belief he may never give a promising relationship a chance. Is it possible that you can discuss
these ideas with him and see if he would like to reconsider his decision?
If he is willing to reconsider, we'd like to suggest two steps
that can help him sort out what he really feels about you, and what he expects. The first is for him to find a happily married
friend, relative, rabbi, former teacher, neighbor, etc. who can be a mentor and sounding board for him. Single friends can't
play this role; they often reinforce negative stereotypes and unrealistic expectations.
The second is for both of you to read the first few chapters
of our book, "In The Beginning." It will help both of you to better understand the dynamics at play here, and decide whether
you wish to continue the path toward marriage.
We hope that our answer has been helpful, and wish you the
best of luck.
Rosie & Sherry
Conclusion?
Well, one, be thankful that
both these people where not interested because who needs to spin much energy into one so presumptive and focused on an unattainable
thing? In other words, I would never measure up. In other words… wish them luck and write them off as lost souls in the process
of searching. In other words, just because they both were (are) damn cute, says nothing about what is inside.
So… I am just about done I
think with having an online profile and searching online for a match/mate and bugger that, will just frolic about more in
the real world and see if I can hookup with folks who actually have integrity and courage to live in life rather then live
in a bubble.
Carpe Diem