
| Updated: 21 Mar 1998 |
On 11 Feb 1998, Louise James wrote: My atlas of England shows a Lydd, Lydden and Lydd-on-Sea in Kent. This is nowhere near Worcestershire. However, there is a Lye in Worcestershire. This is confirmed in Bartholemew's Gazeteer of England. I therefore concluded that somewhere along the line, a typo was made and the information was incorrectly submitted as Lyd. Since I started doing research, someone else must have come to the same conclusion as the most recent Ancestral File (which arrived last year in the FHC I use) now shows William (1)'s birthplace as 5 Nov 1678 in Lye, Worcestershire. I'm assuming the difference in dates has to do with the Quaker dating system.
According to the John Mahlon HARVEY's Edna (Davis) Harvey typescript: William Harvey born 5th 9mo 1678 [05 Nov 1678] Parish of Lye in Worcestershire, England.
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For more details about the British adoption of the Gregorian calendar see The British Switch to the Gregorian Calendar. For a broader view of calendar reform in general go to the Home Page for Calendar Reform.
Now for the Quaker wrinkle in time. Quakers would not use pagan names. Therefore, until 1753, they called March 1st month, April 2nd month, ... December 10th month, January 11th month, and February 12th month. For example, the date given for William Harvey's birth, 5th 9th mo. 1678, means 05 Nov 1678 (not 05 Sep 1678). Of course, every thing gets very simple beginning in 1753 when 1st month is January, 2nd month is February, and so on.
For a more complete discussion, go to Andria Fiegel Wolfe's Quaker Dates.
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William1 HARVEY (1678 Eng - 1754 PA)
was married on 12 Aug 1714 in Philadelphia MH, PA or Chester Co, PA.
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The previous team #1 outline descendancy tree showed Chester Co, PA. |
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According to Jerry Richmond's Harvey GEDCOM: William HARVEY m. Judith BOLIN Abt. 1714 Philadelphia MM, PA
According to Ken Cloud's Harvey GEDCOM: William HARVEY m: Judith OSBORN 12 Jun 1714 Chester Co, Pa
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The maiden name of Judith OSBORNE or OSBORN or OSBOURN widow of Peter wife of Wm1 HARVEY (1678 Eng - 1754 PA) was BOLIN or DEUCE or DUCE. |
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The previous team #1 outline descendancy tree showed Judith (BOLIN) OSBORNE. |
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Osbourn, Peter Spouse:Judith Deuce b. ABT. 1676 of Bilston
Osbourn, Peter m. Judith Deuce 22 Nov 1701 Wolverhampton
Osborne, Peter son of Peter Osborne & Judith Deuce b. 1707 Wolverhampton
A search for Judith DEUCE in the IGI turned up the following:
Deuce, Judith Spouse:Peter Osbourn b. ABT. 1680 of Bilston
Deuce, Judith daughter of Samuel DUCE/Elizabeth b. 1683 Bilston
Deuce, Judith m. Peter Osbourn 22 Nov 1701 Wolverhampton
There are also entries for her father Samuel DUCE.Judith DUCE also shows up in the Ancestral file:
Judith DUCE
Born: 1683, Bilston, Staffs, England
Mar: 22 Nov 1701, Wolverhampton, Staffs, England
Died: 1 May 1750, Kennett, Chester, PA
The ancestral file also shows her married to Peter Osborne but does not
show her marriage to William Harvey.According to Jerry Richmond's Harvey GEDCOM: William HARVEY m. Judith BOLIN Abt. 1714 Philadelphia MM, PA
According to the John Mahlon HARVEY's Edna (Davis) Harvey typescript: William Harvey ... Married ... Judith (Bolin?) Osborne....
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Corrected Dates |
(For a discussion of Quaker dates, see above) |
Individual Event Incorrect Date Date in Source Source Corrected Date Wm1 (1678-1754) b: 05 Sep 1678 5th 9mo 1678 1 05 Nov 1678 Wm1 (1678-1754) m: 12 Jun 1714 12th 6mo 1714 1 12 Aug 1714 Judith Osborne d: 01 May 1750 1st 5mo 1750 1 01 Jul 1750 Hannah2 (1715-?) b: 18 Jun 1715 18 6mo 1715 2 18 Aug 1715 Hannah2 (1715-?) m: 10 Apr 1741 10 Jun 1741 4 10 Jun 1741 Wm2 (1717-1813) b: 09 Feb 1716/17 9 2mo 1717 2 09 Apr 1717 Wm2 (1717-1813) m: 28 Aug 1741 28 Oct 1741 4 28 Oct 1741 Judith3 (1742-?) b: 03 Sep 1742 3 9mo 1742 2 03 Nov 1742 Wm3 (1744-?) b: 03 Jun 1744 3 6mo 1744 2 03 Aug 1744 Amos3 (1749-1825) b: 07 Apr 1749 7 4mo 1749 2 07 Jun 1749 Hannah Pusey b: 21 Apr 1752 21 Jun 1752 4 21 Jun 1752 Peter3 (1751-1824) b: 20 Oct 1751 20 10mo 1751 2 20 Dec 1751 Isaac2 (1718-1802 b: 21 Sep 1718 21 9mo 1718 2 21 Nov 1718 Wm3 (1741/42-1781) b: 29 Nov 1740 29 11mo 1741/42 3 29 Jan 1741/42 Hannah3 (1742/43-?) b: 21 Jan 1742/43 21 1mo 1742/43 3 21 Mar 1742/43 Edith3 (1744-?) b: 20 Sep 1744 20 9mo 1744 3 20 Nov 1744 Rachel3 (1746-?) b: 02 May 1746 2 5mo 1746 3 02 Jul 1746 Isaac3 (1748-?) b: 23 Mar 1747/48 23 3mo 1748 3 23 May 1748 Elizabeth3 (1749/50-?) b: 13 Jan 1749/50 13 1mo 1749/50 3 13 Mar 1749/50 Martha3 (1751-1825) b: 25 Oct 1751 25 10mo 1751 3 25 Dec 1751 Thomas Atkinson b: 18 Sep 1741 18 Nov 1741 4 18 Nov 1741 Amos2 (1721-?) b: 03 Oct 1721 3 10mo 1721 2 03 Dec 1721 Amos2 (1721-?) m: 06 May 1752 06 Jul 1752 4 06 Jul 1752 James2 (1723-1784) b: 21 Jun 1723 21 6mo 1723 2 21 Aug 1723 1. Edna (Davis) Harvey typescript 2. John T. Humphrey, Pennsylvania Births Chester County 1682-1800, (Humphrey Publications, Washington, D. C. 1994), pages 80-81 3. John T. Humphrey, Pennsylvania Births Delaware County 1682-1800, (Humphrey Publications, Washington, D. C. 1995), pages 35-36 4. Jerry Richmond's Harvey GEDCOM, (31 Jan 1998)You may join this research activity by contacting one of the team members directly or by subscribing to the RootsWeb HARVEY-L mailing list. (Back to Outline Descendancy Tree, Overview, or Team #1 .)
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William3 HARVEY (Wm2, Wm1) (1744 PA - ) married Susannah PUSEY. |
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The previous team #1 outline descendancy tree showed Hannah PUSEY as William's wife.
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Also, according to Jerry Richmond's Harvey GEDCOM: "-New Garden MM, Chester co,PA on 27 May 1767 William Harvey, son of William & Ann, of Chester co,PA, marries at London Grove MH, Susanna Pusey, dau of Joshua & Mary, dec'd, of Chester co,PA"
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James2 HARVEY (Wm1) (1723 PA - 1784 PA) was born on 21 Aug 1723 and died on 09 Oct 1784. |
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The previous team #1 outline descendancy tree showed James born on 21 Jun 1723 and died on 10 Oct 1784.
(For a discussion of Quaker dates, see above)
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According to the John Mahlon HARVEY's Edna (Davis) Harvey typescript: James HARVEY b. 6,21,1723 [21 Aug 1723] Chester Co, PA d. 10,10,1784
According to John T. Humphrey, Pennsylvania Births Chester County 1682-1800, (Humphrey Publications, Washington, D. C. 1994), page 80: James HARVEY b: 21 6mo 1723 [21 Aug 1723] son of William and Judith from records of Kennett Square MM
According to Jerry Richmond's Harvey GEDCOM: James Harvey b: 21 Jun 1723 Chester co, PA d: 09 Oct 1784 Chester co, PA -Death of James, son of William & Judith, recorded at Kennett MM,PA
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All of Isaac2 and Martha (Newlin) HARVEY's children were born in Chester Co, PA. |
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The previous team #1 outline descendancy tree showed them all born in Delaware Co, PA. |
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According to the John Mahlon HARVEY's Edna (Davis) Harvey typescript: Children[of Isaac and Martha (Newlin) Harvey]: All born Chester Co., Penn.
According to John T. Humphrey, Pennsylvania Births Delaware County 1682-1800, (Humphrey Publications, Washington, D. C. 1995), pages 35-36: The births of all 10 children were recorded by Darby MM.
According to Jerry Richmond's Harvey GEDCOM: shows all of the children born in Chester Co, PA.
According to John Mahlon HARVEY, "I have no knowledge about why the births were recorded by Darby MM. It is possible that Isaac and Martha continued to live in Chester Co. while attending a Meeting for Worship under the care of Darby Monthly Meeting.
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