David Lyles
1765 to about 1840, S.C.
see David Lyles' deeds | return to the William A. Lyles page
modified April 15, 2000
Who was David Lyles (1765-1840?)?

We are real, real interested in David Lyles because, according to Aunt Amy, William A. Lyles' grandfather was a David Lyles. There was only one David Lyles in South Carolina of a suitable age. Early in his life, he lived in Edgefield County, briefly lived in Abbeville District, and ended his days in the Oconee part of the Pickens District. (See David Lyles' land transactions in Edgefield County from 1787 to 1807.)

Who his parents were, we don't know. We suspect that he came from the early Fairfield County Lyleses other than the Ephraim-Col. Aromanus Lyles line.

In 1790, David Lyles was living in Edgefield County, S.C., the only male (according to the census of that year) in a household of 4 females, presumably his wife Deborah and three girls. In the next ten years, the family grew so that the 1800 census listed a household of nine people, including seven children. Presumably, these children were those we know of: Matilda, Mary ("Polly"), Susan, Peninah (1785), Elizabeth (1791), Joseph (1792), and Hugh Isham (1795). The last known child, Westley, was born in 1801.

Something Curious Happened

Then between 1800 and 1820, something curious happened to the family. In 1820, according to the census, David Lyles was living in the Pendleton District, and Deborah Lyles was living in the Abbeville District. In David's household were a grown woman 26-45 and a girl and a boy, each born after 1810. Deborah had in her household two young men, a young woman, and two boys.

1820 census
DAVID LYLES (Lile), Pendleton District
1 male over 45
1 female 26-45
1 female under 10
1 male under 10

 

1820 census
DEBORAH LYLES, Abbeville District
1 female over 45
1 male 18-26
1 female 16-25
1 male 16-18
1 male 10-16
1 male under 10

Why were David and Deborah Lyles living apart by 1820? Moreover, the youngest of the daughters was 29 by this time, and the youngest son was 19. So who were all of these extra youngsters?

All of their daughters had probably married by this time: Matilda married Samuel Ross, Polly married a man named Kimmons, Susan married James Stuart, Peninah married John Harbert, and Elizabeth married Edmond Atkinson. (Several of these husbands are named in Deborah's probate records.)

At the very least, there are two unaccounted-for young males and two unaccounted-for females.

In 1825, when Deborah died, her son Joseph administered her estate, supervising the sale of her personal property, which eventually brought in over $1600. An account of expenditures signed by Joseph Liles and dated November 30, 1829, lists a payment to David Liles. (The amount of payment in our photocopy is too faint to read. We need to see the original.)

After Deborah's death, more of the children showed up in the Oconee area of the Pickens District. In 1830, Joseph and Westley had set up households next to David Lyles. By 1840, Hugh Isham's and family and Peninah Lyles Harbert, evidently a widow, were also living nearby.

In 1830, David's household still had four people, just as it did in 1820, except that each was listed as 10 years older. In 1830, David Lyles's listed age indicates that he was born between 1770 and 1780, but given the notorious slipperiness of ages in the censuses, this is no impediment to supposing that he was born about 1765, as other sources have it.

1820 census Pendleton District
DAVID LYLES (Lile)
1 male over 45
1 female 26-45
1 female under 10
1 male under 10
1830 census Pickens District
DAVID LYLES (Lisle)
1 male 50-60
1 female 40-50
1 female 15-20
1 male 10-15

David Lyles died late in 1839 or very early in 1840 in Oconee. On January 13, 1840, his son Joseph, along with our William A. Lyles, sold 100 acres of David's land on Chauga Creek in Pickens District. (See our transcript of the deeds.)

And one more thing--living next to the H. Isham, Westley, and Joseph Lyles families in 1840 was a Mary Lyles (Lisle), age 50-60, and a young girl, age 5-10. Was she the woman in the household in 1830 and 1820? Who was she?


David Lyles in Censuses from 1790 to 1830
 
1790 census--
DAVID LYLES, Edgefield
1 free white male of 16 years and upward
4 free white females (all ages)
 
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1800 census
DAVID LYLES, Edgefield
1 male 26-45
1 female 26-45
3 females 10-16
2 females under 10
2 males under 10
 
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1810 census
DAVID LYLES (Liles), Abbeville District
1 male 45 or more
1 female 26-44
2 females 16-25
1 male 16-18
1 male 10-15
2 males under 10
1 female under 10
 
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1820 census
DAVID LYLES (Lile), Pendleton District
1 male over 45
1 female 26-45
1 female under 10
1 male under 10
 
DEBORAH LYLES, Abbeville District
1 female over 45
1 male 18-26
1 female 16-25
1 male 16-18
1 male 10-16
1 male under 10
 
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1825-1829--Deborah personal property sold by Joseph Lyles, administrator
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1830 census
DAVID LYLES (Lisle), Pickens District
1 male 50-60
1 female 40-50
1 female 15-20
1 male 10-15
 
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1840--David's land sold by Joseph and William A. Lyles
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1840 census
MARY LYLES (Lisle), Pickens District
1 female 50-60
1 female 5-10
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