Dick and Lois Ellingson's Guestbook Archive

 

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  Date:   Wed Dec 27 2000 - 01:47 PM    
  Name:   JOHN & DELLA CROXFORD    
  Email:   j_croxford@hotmail.com    
  Location:   SARNIA, ONTARIO, CANADA    
  Comments:   WE PURCHASED A 35'-10" 2000 BOUNDER. OUR HOME IS ON THE MARKET TO BE SOLD. WE WILL BE FULL TIME R.V,ERS SHORTLY. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD WITH GREAT ANTICIPATION TO THIS NEW LIFE WE HAVE CHOSEN FOR A FEW YEARS. WE PLAN TO VISIT YOUR SOUTHERN STATES DURING OUR WINTER MONTHS, LIKELY ARIZONA AND TOURING OTHER STATES DURING THE SPRING, SUMMER AND FALL OVER A PERIOD OF SEVERAL YEARS. WE WILL BE RETURNING TO CANADA 6 MONTHS OUT OF EVERY YEAR. REGARDS JOHN & DELLA    
 
  Date:   Sun Dec 31 2000 - 04:39 PM    
  Name:   Mitch & Doris Coffey    
  Email:   MTcoffey@aol.com    
  Location:   Warrenton,Va.    
  Comments:   Enjoyed your dairy and will check back again. Mitch    
 
  Date:   Fri Jan 05 2001 - 02:28 PM    
  Name:   Kathy Wedvik BMI    
  Email:   wedvik@nwlink.com    
  Location:   Auburn, Wa.    
  Homepage:   http://www.geocities.com/kathywedvik/    
  Comments:   Enjoyed reading about your travels! Sounds like a lot of fun! I'm hoping to get some of my radio releases played at kmps and kayo, so if you can put a good word in it would be much appreciated.    
 
  Date:   Fri Jan 12 2001 - 02:52 PM    
  Name:   Steve    
  Email:   Godssoldier35@webtv.net    
  Location:   Florida    
  Comments:   Yes i would say You have to be very carefull when purchasing an RV. We put a down payment on an RV and today i found out that the blue book value was 2000$ less than what we paid for a year 2000 ..marked down RV at an rv show.. They marked the fleetwood campers up.Ours retail price from them before they marked it down was $4000 higher than the real retail price. THANK GOD the owner did not sighn the agreement ..so we canceled check..I don't even think i want an rv now ;-(    
 
  Date:   Sun Jan 14 2001 - 03:14 PM    
  Name:   Peter & Judy Pellow    
  Email:   marinedad22@aol.com    
  Location:   Flushing, Michigan    
  Comments:   I don't own a motorhome yet but would like to have a bounder. Of all the motorhomes I've looked at I like the bounder the best. I have two more years to work before I retire and would like to buy a brand new fully loaded 34 footer with the ford engine. My plans for now is to learn all about rv'ing by reading the bounder sounder and stories like yours to pick up on the problems and the good things about rv'ing. I found your story very interesting and read the whole thing. Every one tells me I should rent a motorhome first to see If I would like it before I buy one, but I figuer the $1,000 I pay to rent one would help to make a down payment on a new one two years from now. When you buy a used one you normaly buy someone elses problems. besides two years from now they will have made more improvements on them and I and the wife like new things anyway. I would like to become a full timer rv'er but the wife wants a place to call home if something should happen to me. Anyway I thought I would make a comment about your letter and let you know that someone has read it. Have a nice day and I'll be reading your letters again. MSGT PELLOW(retire air national guardsman)    
 
  Date:   Wed Jan 31 2001 - 06:58 PM    
  Name:   Stanley Van Kleeck    
  Email:   svankleeck@austin.rr.com    
  Location:   Round Rock, Tx.    
 
  Date:   Fri Feb 09 2001 - 01:01 PM    
  Name:   Dr.Motorhome.com    
  Email:   rvrental@motorhome.com    
  Location:   Motorhome RV Directory    
  Homepage:   http://motorhome.com/    
  Comments:   I just think you two have a fantastic website! I really enjoyed your content. Im sorry to hear about your Bounder troubles, Sometimes when things are mass produced its bound(er) to happern--opps did I say that I was only kidding. A link to Motorhome.com sure would be nice.    
 
  Date:   Wed Feb 28 2001 - 08:36 PM    
  Name:   Pres Lee Presley    
  Email:   prespresley@earthlink.net    
  Location:   Vista, Ca.    
  Comments:   Hi- Read your diary with interest. Sorry you had so much trouble with your class A. My wife won't go traveling in a motorhome, but my buddy and I are checking out all the class C's. I saw a Chassis mount 4wheel drive on the freeway buy couldn't get close- I think it was a KOSY or a KABIN but I can't be sure. My buddy and I like to hunt for gold and check out old abandoned railroads. If you know of a well built chassis mount let me know. Hope you have fun travels. Pres    
 
  Date:   Tue Mar 06 2001 - 03:35 PM    
  Name:   Nancy Carmichael    
  Email:   Lilfiddler@aol.com    
  Location:   Prescott or on the road    
  Comments:   Just checking in. Haven't heard from you for awhile and don't know if you are still in Seattle area or have hit the road. The last I heard you were coming south for a wedding. So what's up?    
 
  Date:   Thu Mar 08 2001 - 01:10 PM    
  Name:   Alexander + Petra Licht    
  Email:   047717906-001@t-online.de    
  Location:   21745 Hemmoor Germany    
  Comments:   Hallo, the correct Email is 047717906-0001@t-online.de. Sorry, my german Emailadress is longer as american adresses, or? Our English is not so good but we hope your german is better, or? We found you by the radiostation CountryBear, because we want to win the Cdcollection too and your homeadress was very interested. We are living next to Hamburg. Have a good time, Petra & Alexander    
 
  Date:   Fri Mar 23 2001 - 04:47 PM    
  Name:   Laura & Bob Madigan    
  Email:   rlmadi@aol.com    
  Location:   All over the US    
  Homepage:   http://www.rvtravelog.com/    
  Comments:   Dick & Lois, Wonderful job on your website. Only got to do a quick lookover but really enjoyed what we saw. Looking forward to being able to really sit down and look through it. Laura & Bob    
 
  Date:   Wed Mar 28 2001 - 07:53 AM    
  Name:   Dick Davis    
  Email:   duodavis@worldnet.att.net    
  Location:   Montgomery, AL    
  Homepage:   http://home.att.net/~duodavis/    
  Comments:   Sorry about the Bounder problems. You're not alone. Trade for an Allegro. You never hear of problems like yours in them - and they will fix anything that is wrong. Your page has a nice format and I enjoyed reading your diary. Please note that your email hyperlink you put on our guest book does not work! Please send me your correct email.    
 
  Date:   Mon Apr 09 2001 - 09:27 AM    
  Name:   Sister Sandy    
  Location:   Phoenix    
  Comments:   I finally found, and read, your journal. Fascinating! What a good time you're having. Love, Sandy    
 
  Date:   Tue Apr 10 2001 - 05:39 AM    
  Name:   Bud & Weezie Cox    
  Email:   cbudloui@aol.com    
  Location:   Canton, Illinois,61520    
  Homepage:      
  Comments:   Your Website is great. Now that we have found you we will keep up with you in your travels. We live in Canton, IL which is between Chicago, IL and St Louis, Mo so if you ever get a chance to come our way, please do so. We would love to have you and see you. Maybe Snuggles & Mittens could play for a while!!    
 
  Date:   Wed Apr 11 2001 - 07:50 PM    
  Name:   Russ & Michele Mercer    
  Email:   ming@mecgate.net    
  Location:   Orlando, FL    
  Comments:   Hi - We just bought our first motorhome - a 1994 Bounder - we are so excited...we can't full time yet - but your site gives us hope...we pick up our new toy Friday...wish us luck and keep the encouragement coming!!    
 
  Date:   Sat Apr 14 2001 - 11:36 PM    
  Name:   R.R.R.    
  Email:   deathwind1@37.com    
  Location:   Ridgefield wa.    
  Comments:   one thing you need to have with you to make your stops more interesting, (and who knows you may even find sone gold )is a METAL DETECTOR all full timers should keep one aboard. -----------------------------------------------------------your site is one of the best I have seen-------------------keep up the good work-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------signedR.R.R.    
 
  Date:   Tue Apr 24 2001 - 06:36 PM    
  Name:   Dave Tholen    
  Email:   dtholen@escapees.com    
  Location:   Indianapolis, IN    
  Comments:   Hope to follow in your footsteps in 2 years. Will be going full-time. Currently own a 1996 Bounder 32H and will be replacing with a Newmar Dutch Star. Thanks for you commentary.    
 
  Date:   Fri May 04 2001 - 08:34 PM    
  Name:   John E King    
  Email:   diasix@tough.com    
  Location:   Chiefland, Fl.    
  Homepage:   http://home.talkcity.com/GasolineAlley/blkdiamon/i    
  Comments:   Sounds like you guys have had a time of it,its a shame that dealers have no concern for their reputation and will lie and cheat to turn a buck. Do you guys get hasseled much out on the road ? I am a retired freight re-locator spent 30+ years out on the road went through 5 wives ,its a hard life out there and was getting even rougher when I left ,I bet its even harder to earn a buck now. Have fun on your run.    
 
  Date:   Fri May 04 2001 - 08:43 PM    
  Name:   John E. King    
  Email:   diasix@tough.com    
  Location:   Chiefland Fl.    
  Comments:   My web site did not link as the end of it did not show up Will try this http://home.talkcity.com/GasolineAlley/blkdiamon/index.html    
 
  Date:   Wed May 09 2001 - 08:23 AM    
  Name:   Pat Estelle    
  Email:   leste10000@aol.com    
  Location:   Myrtle Beach, SC for now    
  Comments:   Really enjoyed your site. Will be checking back often. We have a 1994 34J and love it. Would love to hear from other Bounder owners, tips, tricks, answers to problems, etc. any kind of Bounder chit chat. Especially folks with that year and model. We've been full-timers for four and a half years and can't imagine any other way to live. So as long as the health holds, look for us on the highways and byways. Pat and Lee Estelle    
 
  Date:   Fri May 25 2001 - 07:58 PM    
  Name:   Coster Archibald    
  Email:   coster@ix.netcom.com    
  Location:   Newark, CA    
  Comments:   I thoroughly enjoyed reading about your adventures. We have considered going full time or semi-full time but have not made the step. It certainly seems that life on the road would be quite an adventure!    
 
  Date:   Sat Jun 02 2001 - 09:45 PM    
  Name:   Kade Popham    
  Email:   tspopham@vcn.com    
  Location:   Gillette, WY    
  Comments:   We will leave Gillette tomorrow going to Washington. We were going to visit Poulsbo RV to perhaps purchase a new motorhome, but......will have to find another RV dealer. We were specifically shopping for a Discovery but......forget a Fleetwood motorhome. Thank you for sharing your experience as this has been a real eye opener for us. Just one question, are your ready to give up RVing? Kade Popham    
 
  Date:   Mon Jun 18 2001 - 12:45 PM    
  Name:   Brad Hoffman    
  Email:   brad.hoffman@excite.com    
  Location:   Shakopee, MN    
  Comments:   I've been contemplating the purchase of an early 90's Bounder. They seem to be economical for a class A motorhome. I guess your experiences would be a good indication of why. I performed a search on "Bounder" and found your journal. I spent the last hour reading it in its entirety. I'm 33 and do computer consulting. I'm planning on buying a used motorhome, taking off the month of October, and exploring Alaska, Oregon, and Washington with my yellow labrador, Cody. Your journeys were very entertaining. Thank you for the taking the time to publish it. Sincerely, Brad Hoffman    
 
  Date:   Wed Jun 20 2001 - 11:14 AM    
  Name:   Yvonne White    
  Email:   ywhite@mindspring.com    
  Location:   LaGrange, Ga.    
  Comments:   My grandson and I found your webb page by accident, and have enjoyed reading about your travels. Thank you for sharing. Yvonne and David White    
 
  Date:   Saturday July 7, 2001 - 06:58PM    
  Name:   Alan and Elaine    
  Email:   Alaine@san.rr.com    
  Location:   San Diego    
  Comments:   Wow!! You must be a computer wiz. Loved reading your diary. Thank you for the RV dealership warning. We found your web site because we are looking for a used Fleetwood Jamboree. We had a great time reading about your adventures. Thanks for sharing.    
 
  Date:   Saturday July 21, 2001 - 10:18PM    
  Name:   Russell Raper    
  Email:   russ@oknet1.net    
  Location:   Muskogee, Oklahoma    
  Comments:   Hello Dick and Lois,

I am happy that you are getting some of your motor home problems fixed.

My problems are simular to yours. My motor home is a 1988 36ft. Fleetwood Limited. It was sold as a 1989, 37ft. motor home. Thats not the half of it. When I weighed it I found out that I have 12220# on a 10000# axle, empty. That's over 2200# over the GVWR. In my opinion, that is unsafe. Althought we don't have as much in ours as you do but it drained our savings.

I have already reported it to the NHTSA but don't expect them to do much since our motor home is 13 years old. But, I plain to see an attorney to see if I have legal recourse because it was represented as an 1989, 37ft. motor home.

I am glad to see that there is still that some are getting there motor homes fixed.

Russ
   
 
  Date:   Monday July 23, 2001 - 11:11AM    
  Name:   BARRY AND JOY VLAD    
  Email:   mailto:vladj@aol.com    
  Location:   WEST CHESTER, PA    
  Comments:   Hi Dick & Lois, I enjoyed reading your diary very much. We just bought a 1998 Bounder last month - no slide out. We are not full-timers, but that is our goal - maybe as soon as next year! I envy you both. Take care. Best regards. Joy:-)    
 
  Date:   Sunday July 29, 2001 - 10:53AM    
  Name:   The Jenkins Family    
  Email:   lj@americanair.org    
  Location:   Woodinville WA    
  Comments:   We really love the homepage    
 
  Date:   Monday August 13, 2001 - 11:58AM    
  Name:   Sue Christensen    
  Email:   chris2@eburg.com    
  Location:   Elesnburg, washington    
  Comments:   Dick & Lois!!
Right on - my husband & I are also VICTIMS of Poulsbo Rv's unethical sales tactics. We bought a 2000 Westport from the Auburn sotre! After the fact we discovered that the "NEW" unit we had purchased had been used as a show model for months. Too compound our disatisfaction we discovered that the model (2000 Westport) was discontinued and it was common knowledge at Poulsbo RV (for everyone except us!!) Our list of problems goes on and on. Four months after purchase the hot water tank ruptured, there is a mysterious stain across all of our ceiling beams, our "floating floor" is entirely loose & has to be held down to get the slide out in, the shower is cracked in numerous places, lights are shorted out, decals peeling off, our TV had over 500 clock hours on it when we purchased the unit, door handles have broken off, cupboard wood has large "fade" marks, the roof has leaked on two seperate occasions, the list is endless and the unit is a year old!! You are very right when you say they lie! All of our Auburn reps did & FLEETWOOD IS NOT ANYMORE RESPONSIVE TO OUR PROBLEMS THAN PUOLSBO RV!! Buyers!!! ~~~~BEWARE!~~~~ Fleetwood & Poulsbo RV are a great team ~ neither of them are service/customer oriented and their products are extremely substandard! It will be a long time before I would ever consider purchase of another Fleetwood unit! The best part came after our latest visit to Poulsbo RV ~ I had to laugh at myself ~ approximately 10 days after our lastest visit, I recieved a survey in the mail from Fleetwood - thinking it was for our latest visit(in May of 2001) I was surprised! The best part came when I opened the letter & found it was for a visit in October 2000!! TYPICAL!!!! Thanks for supplying this page for other VICTIMS!! I hope the read it BEFORE buying.
   
 
  Date:   Monday September 3, 2001 - 09:25AM    
  Name:   David Nye    
  Email:   dnye786@earthlink.net    
  Location:   Marysville    
  Comments:   While I have never purchased anything from Poulsbo RV, I have on two occasions visted their Everett store. Both times as I left I felt like I had been sleazed, and that was just talking to them, and looking at a few rigs.

At the RV show this spring in Seattle, I again talked to representatives of Paulsbo RV. This time I came fairly close to purchasing an RV, but had a bad feeling about how they were trying to complete the deal.

Their sales reps do not like to put anything writing. There were several contingencies such as a succesful test drive. I was told that was standard, but the saleserson would not write it on the offer sheet. I put it on myself. This went on covering several subjects.

They wanted me to write a check to show we were serious. I learned along time ago, you should never do that. Once they have something of yours, it is extremely hard to get it back.

The final issue that stopped everything, was the insulting trade in Allowance they were offering on our truck and fifth wheel.

I did give them photo's of the truck and trailer. It came to the point where I followed the salesperson into their finance tent, (against his wishes) demanded my property back and left.

Its a shame that any business conducts itself that way, but especially when the finances involved are so high.

I wish you the best of luck, and hope all turns out well. Until then, keep up the pressure, I have book marked this page and will forward it to others, as well as look for more updates.

Regards,

Dave Nye

   
 
  Date:   Friday September 7, 2001 - 05:55PM    
  Name:   The Emersons    
  Email:   llemer@syix.com    
  Location:   Northern California    
  Comments:   Although we have owned 2 motorhomes, both have been older and used. Minor problems with the Southwind 32footer. But a great motorhome. The newer one, is 27 feet, much too short for long trips, especially with four dogs. But we do it. So far so good. It is an Allegro. But then we don't have slideouts, nor leveling jacks. Maybe simple is better? Always wanted a slide out, but then maybe not. Oh well, a moot dream, can't afford to buy a new one. Maybe we will see you on the road some day! 8>)    
 
  Date:   Thursday September 13, 2001 - 06:17AM    
  Name:   Rose Zagel    
  Email:   wanabfishin@aol.com    
  Location:   Washington    
  Comments:   You paid a significant amount of money for problems. It's to bad these people were so deceitful and you have to go to such lengths to correct the problems. For that amount of money you should have warrantees and if it's materials and workmanship I do believe there is no time limit on them correcting the problem they cannot say a year or three years. But for a new product you should not have to endure this. But I guess it is like a new car you get all those little flaws you don't expect to get and you rush to get them all fixed and may end up with more along the way. For that leak that would be a health issue and you could probably get some satisfaction by going through some federal health department. Keep track of repairs maybe this can go through the lemon law...so many repairs in the course of a few months or year and it is a lemon. Not to sure as how the lemon law works but maybe you can look that up. Did you write to the Attorney General of the state? good luck-Rose    
 
  Date:   Thursday September 13, 2001 - 04:38PM    
  Name:   Donna Grayce Smith    
  Email:   donnagrayce@yahoo.com    
  Location:   The Homestead, CA    
  Comments:   Hullo, Aunt Lois!    
 
  Date:   Thursday September 27, 2001 - 04:58AM    
  Name:   Larry Johnson    
  Email:   svhawkwind@aol.com    
  Location:   Port Orchard, WA    
  Comments:   Wow! We were thinking of buying possibly from these people, which place did you purchase yours from? I'm glad I stumbled on to your website... man I'd hat to make you mad.. ha More of us should do what you've done... the boating industry is crapy too... good job!    
 
  Date:   Wednesday October 24, 2001 - 11:54PM    
  Name:   Sherm & Roberta Rodgers    
  Email:   rdrodgers@home.com    
  Location:   Mission Viejo, CA    
  Comments:   I really enjoyed reading about your travels.
I have written you an e-mail with some questions.
   
 
  Date:   Thursday November 22, 2001 - 11:52AM    
  Name:   Pat Nardo    
  Email:   pamate@aol.com    
  Location:   Des Moines, WA    
  Comments:   Dear Fellow RVers:
I have been dealing with Poulsbo RV for many years now and have always been stisfied with the maintenance of my vehicle, a 27 foot, 1985 Winnebago Chieftain.When they were Valley I-5 my regular maintenance was done by them and only once did I complain and they made it right. Every once in awhile, things, such as in your case, go awfully wrong and only get worse. I hope you can come to grips with this situation and know that you somehow are not typical of the treatment to be expected from Poulsbo RV.It does make me sad to think that now I should think twice about my next repair schedule at Poulsbo RV.WHen I have my motorhome back from their typically trustworthy shop in Kent, I will follow up to you with my evaluation and whether I will continue my patronage.
Good luck with your Bounder.
Regards,
Pat Nardo
   
 
  Date:   Sunday December 16, 2001 - 10:17PM    
  Name:   Tomas Lundstrom    
  Email:   Nastomas@Aol.Com    
  Comments:   Dear,

I can relate to your problems with Poulsbo. We purchased a new Discovery from the Auburn Store in 2000. This body was built on a twisted chassis. Everything that was done at Auburn was done very sloppy, especially the "sealant" job by Pamco. Dirt, black streakes, sand and oil stains on the seats where all sealed in. They where suppose to seal the carpet too, when i moved the slide-out after their "sealant" job there was dirt and wood chips under slide out so you know it was never cleaned. Pamco's sealant person told me the whole job takes less than 4hrs. Not bad for $2,000.00. I have a coupon for a new sealant job when they get the rest done to the "Bus". The "Bus" spent last winter in Riverside and is scheduled to spent four months down there this winter too. At least Fleetwood's people are trying. I have suggested that we donate this one to the Airforce for target practice. It seams like these "Buses" are way ower the dealers head. After my dealings with Poulsbo in Auburn they have taken my advice to stick with less complicated RV's like tent trailer. Our experience with the RV industry is that quality is way behind anything else that we ever owned. What adds to the problem is service people that have no clue and comission sales people that only care aboat their comission and will try to sell you anything so they can make a buck. It should be a factory to customer direct sales industry, This way the manufacturers could put the 20 to 30% margin they pay their dealer towards quality instead of someone to get paid for lying.

We are planning to trade our "bus" and upgrade.


Thanks


Tomas Lundstrom
   
 
  Date:   Tuesday December 18, 2001 - 07:41PM    
  Name:   Louise & Chuck Langeberg    
  Email:   drcflang@aol.com    
  Location:   Homeland, California    
  Comments:   Thank you for the information that Poulsboro RV is not a good place to do business. We received info on a diesel pusher from them but your bad experience have changed our minds to deal with them. Sorry that the state of Washington doesn't have a lemon law and personally I don't have much faith in a Fleetwood product. We think we'll go with Winnebago or Safari diesel or maybe Monaco? We have a 1998 32' Southwind and the 460 Ford w/OD engine and so far we are happy with it. However we are ready to upgrade to a diesel pusher.
Sincerely,
Chuck & Louise
   
 
  Date:   Wednesday December 19, 2001 - 02:17PM    
  Name:   Merle Claflin    
  Email:   mailto:MWCLAFLIN%20@JUNO.COM    
  Location:   Seattle an Arizona    
  Comments:   My experience has been just the opposite of yours. Larry in service has corrected every problem I have had, I too took my bounder to the Riverside factory for corrections which were completed in 3 days satisfactorily.

It is hard for me to believe that your got that kind of treatment -- perhaps your attitude had something to do with it. I had to be patient, needed to understand their problems fixing the items needing fixing and discuss solutions directly with Fleetwood. They worked with me and I am on my second Bounder from them and definitely will buy a third one from them when ready.
   
 
  Date:   Saturday December 22, 2001 - 09:44AM    
  Name:   Kay McDonald    
  Email:   kritsk@foxinternet.com    
  Location:   Lynnwood, Washington    
  Homepage:   http://www.usabankcards.com/    
  Comments:   I am very impressed by your web site. I'll be 62 in December of 2002 and you gave me more inspiration. I plan on buying a Class "C" because I'm a woman and have to drive it myself and take off for more "Roads Less Travelled". I was planning on retiring in the Greek Islands when I realized I had not yet seen all of our Great Lands here in Wonderful America.

I discovered your site when I did a search on Used RV's and got into Poulsbo RV and your web site. I agree that there should be more stringent laws for RV buyers.........however I also believe that a business should monitor itself and establish some sort of credibility to protect its customers. Evidently Poulsbo RV does not do this. Thank you for your input. We need more testimonials (good or bad) for the protection of all of us.

Good Luck and Enjoy
Kay McDonald
   
 
  Date:   Saturday December 22, 2001 - 08:31PM    
  Name:   Harvey Tuttle    
  Email:   htukttle@attbi.com    
  Location:   Bellingham, Wa.    
  Comments:   After reading on several different locations of buyers problems with Fleetwood products,not only will I never buy one, I will not even look at one. It is a sorry state of affairs that allows bussineses like these to continue to treat customers in this manner.    
 
  Date:   Friday December 28, 2001 - 09:59PM    
  Name:   Charles Puig    
  Email:   tracharpu@aol.com    
  Location:   Mount Vernon    
  Comments:   My wife and I are sorry to hear about your problems with your new motorhome. We currently own a Fleetwood travel trailer. No, we didn't buy it from Puolsbo RV but were ready to trade it in for another one of fleetwoods products cause we had problems with it and where we had orginaly bought it stopped selling Fleetwood trailers.We battled with Fleetwood to fix the problems with our slide out and they did. Only took 5 months cause Poulsbo didn't know what they were doing (neither did the other place in Mount Vernon) I agree that Poulsbo is a rip off. They ran a credit check without our permission to see if we were eligible to buy a new one. Then they tried to scam us with the trade in value and the price of the new one. After I returned home and thought about the deal, I called them up and said they were out of their minds. I agree they suck!!!!    
 
  Date:   Monday January 14, 2002 - 12:39PM    
  Name:   CLINTON WAHL    
  Email:   CWAHL@TYEEAIR.COM    
  Location:   PAINFEILD EVERETT WASH.    
  Comments:   Hello i had the same problem in everett me and my brother
bought a 1994 komfort 19 ft. in july. we have had it only 6 months my brother stepped on the stairs to get in the trailer and it pulled right out of the floor.so we removed some of the under coating to are suspicion guess what dry rought you could stick your finger write thru the wood in some places.so we took the bottom portion of the paneling off and it's all dry rought 18 inches above the floor we know what "as is "means i expect a few minor repairs but rebuilding the whole trailer come on! somebody knew about this long before we bought it that kind of damage don't happen in 6 months.them guy's are a bunch of damn thieves so we wrote a letter yesterday we will see what happens i guess you think there would be a lemon law on this kind of stuff.
   
 
  Date:   Saturday February 9, 2002 - 03:26PM    
  Name:   Carole Wright    
  Email:   carolewright@qwest.net    
  Location:   Moorhead, MN    
  Comments:   Sorry to hear of all your troubles with your motorhome. I sure hope Snuggles is still doing well. I rescue Keeshonden and have one of my own, Windy Pines' MrBojangles, CD "Bo". We just lost our other, 11 year old Keesha. Good luck with your future travels!    
 
  Date:   Friday February 15, 2002 - 07:48AM    
  Name:   joe whitbeck    
  Email:   joew17@aol.com    
  Location:   kingston. wa.    
  Comments:   I also bought a 2001 expedition from poulsbo r.v, it has over 3000 miles on it as well they told me the same thing, but it also has 37 defects, charging system, carbon monoxide, goes off when it see's low voltage, step go's in and out as you drive it, sways to much, had back to poulsbo rv 4 times one time was over 7 week, they also lied to me several times. there idiots...    
 
  Date:   Sunday February 17, 2002 - 05:28PM    
  Name:   Bob Turney    
  Location:   Belfair, WA    
  Comments:   Thank you for your efforts to inform possible buyers about P/RV. I will be cautious in my RV search and avoid P/RV when verified. Isn't anyone responsible for anything anymore?    
 
  Date:   Wednesday March 6, 2002 - 05:40PM    
  Name:   Nancy O    
  Email:   nao@harbornet.com    
  Location:   Gig Harbor    
  Homepage:      
  Comments:   I also have had caught them in descebtive sales practices, as they promise items and do not deliver them, I have never gotten a dish for my trailer and the ant. for the tv has never worked properly, as they did send some one out to repair with the wrong material and reinstalled a new ant. to have the same problem to say they would be back with the spacer that was needed on the roof so it would not fail again because of of stress, roof line. A factory installed item. And there were other things such as the being told one price, written up as another, something to do with trade and than the interest was higher as well than orginally told. As I new I was to have it paid off in 6 months rather than the 7 years they put it on, I came out ok there. How ever I have a propane smell every time the furance comes on. As I live in mine all years, I can't just take it back, as I have nothing to tow it with, so they have always delivered, my first purchase was ok, the second is the trailer that we are talking about above. I do find that sales persons promise things and than a general sales manager after signing papers says,no he was mistaken or some excuse.

However, they do have great prices and the only thing to do is loby for a better law and or use every goverment/internet will do the job for them. As I have looked at other dealers now.

Very Sorry for your loss as it's no fun to fight problems, they act like owning an RV makes life great.

Sincerely,
Nancy O
   
 
  Date:   Thursday March 7, 2002 - 12:13AM    
  Name:   Mike Sniadoski    
  Email:   mandc_sniadoski@msn.com    
  Comments:   Dear Dick and Lois's:

I was glad to run across your web site and read about your problems with Poulsbo RV. I'll never buy from a dealer that treats their customers unfairly.

Thanks for the info and good luck on getting your problems resolved with your motorhome.

Sign Mike Sniadoski
   
 
  Date:   Friday March 15, 2002 - 04:27PM    
  Name:   Ted Cook    
  Email:   Tec2step@aol.com    
  Location:   USA/fulltime    
  Homepage:      
  Comments:   Fiund your page, I need an attorney for my RV by Rexhall, it has been in an out of the shop for over 70 days in 1 yr. Do you have any source for attorneys......bought it in AZ, delivered in Calif.(I signed papers as such but didn't really) and have it registered in Texas as an Escapee. ALso on your site there is a box labeled send us mail and it has Poulson's address is that correct? Waiting for a reply.....I pick my coach up on Mon the 18th it has been in Lancast since Feb 20th....I'm not happy. Ted Cook    
 
  Date:   Sunday March 24, 2002 - 08:21PM    
  Name:   Bonnie    
  Email:   polanim59703@yahoo.com    
  Location:   Butte, MT    
  Homepage:      
  Comments:   I had just visited the Poulsbo site a few minutes before I ran across your web page. I am looking for a Class C motorhome as I am a single traveler. I am so glad I read your diary. Who wants to buy trouble? Hope you two enjoy your chosen lifestyle and thanks for the warning.    
 
  Date:   Monday March 25, 2002 - 02:17AM    
  Name:   Scotty Freeman    
  Email:   freemansl@aol.com    
  Location:   Heidelberg, Germany    
  Comments:   Thanks to your information about Poulsbo RV, I will not be doing business with them when I return to Eatonville in July. I will do business elsewhere.    
 
  Date:   Friday March 29, 2002 - 12:31PM    
  Name:   Bill C Steinman    
  Email:   bsteinman@woh.rr.com    
  Location:   1101 Findlay, Ohio 45840    
  Comments:   So true of Bounder,they get your money then don't know you again. Have a happy easter
Bill
   
 
  Date:   Friday April 5, 2002 - 10:27AM    
  Name:   GARY SHELTON    
  Email:   GTLASHELTON@AOL.COM    
  Location:   YAKIMA, WA    
  Comments:   WOW! THANKS FOR THE WARNING. WE WERE GOING TO GO THERE THIS WEEKEND A LOOK FOR A FIFTH WHEEL! THEY SOUND LIKE A BUNCH OF CROOKED CHARACTERS!    
 
  Date:   Sunday April 7, 2002 - 09:15PM    
  Name:   Shirley Matherly    
  Email:   Katiedogkeeshond@cs.com    
  Location:   Jeffersonville, IN    
  Comments:   Was just surfing the internet for a keesie print called "Winding Down" and found your lovely site. We have a 2001 Cougar by Keysone fifth wheel on property in North Carolina and love to take our two keeshonden (Katie and Noel)camping. Katie is four and Noel is one and a half.    
 
  Date:   Friday April 12, 2002 - 02:34PM    
  Name:   Marlene    
  Email:   CWBSHREWS@aol.com    
  Location:   Chatsworth Calif    
  Comments:   i have enjoyed reading your diary. I hope to be able to do what you and your wife are doing someday. I hope Lois is feeling better.    
 
  Date:   Sunday May 5, 2002 - 03:04AM    
  Name:   Donna Lilloren    
  Email:   dll2525@cs.com    
  Location:   Centralia, WA    
  Comments:   We are interested in purchasing a late 90's model class C 23-26' motorhome and after reading about your problems with Poulsbo RV we are wondering if you know of another place we might find one. We have an '87 Rallye and love it but need to find a newer model. We like the mini-winnie with tip out. Do u live in WA state? If u travel in your motorhome...where is the best place to find a slightly used one that we may get a good buy. Thanks. Donna    
 
  Date:   Friday May 10, 2002 - 11:11AM    
  Name:   Thomas Spear    
  Email:   spearstom@hotmail.com    
  Comments:   On Sunday 4/21/02 I witnessed a Poulsbo RV on a test drive hit a parked car at the Northgate Mall. I watched to see if they would stop and leave information for the owner of the hit car but they kept going. I drove down to the sales area where they were displaying all the vehicles and let the Lot lizards know that I had witnessed the accident and asked them to do the right thing and leave information for the owner of the car. I went back to the car and left my info in the event they did not..Guess what they never went back ! The owner called me yesterday and told me that she never got any info from them and that her car has substantial damage. What a bunch of scumbags!

Tom
   
 
  Date:   Friday May 10, 2002 - 11:16AM    
  Name:   Karl Fyles    
  Email:   karl9c1@msn.com    
  Comments:   Sorry to hear about a Bounder that is not so good. I bought a used 91 Bounder 34J in 94 and traded it in for a new 99 34 J with chevy power & allison Tranny. Mine does not have a slide, often I wish I would have bought one. At any rate my Bounders had no real problem of any kind. I will tell you that my 99 was purchased from Valley I-5 wich is now Poulsbo and the day after I spent 84 G the salesperson nor the service department had any interest in me or my motorhome. I had a backup camera problem ( loose connection to the camera in the back) they said I need replace the cable from front to back and that they would take care of it when the cable came in. Oh well I tightened the loose connection myself as the thought of the high school drop out working on my motorhome
did not rest well in my mind. I also fixed my own leaky sink and replaced my kitchen fawcett myself because after 4 visits the idiots could not fix it. In short I gave up on these fools at pulsbo rv.

The problem is not only at poulsbo, it is everywhere. Nobody cares. I bought a new CB for my motorhome at Truck City CB in Fife 1 1/2 years ago for $ 410.00 it has not worked since the day I bought it. I take it in to them and the Elbow long hair hippie takes it apart, hits it a few times, drops it from about 6 inches on his workbench, gives it back to me and says try this for a while. Last time they had it for 2 weeks, I took it home, No work!! I took it in just 1 week ago again----we will see, but dont hold you'r breath. I see this as entertainment now, it makes me feel much better.

My Father in law bought a new Workhose Bounder from poulsbo 2 months ago. Its a 34 with a slide. In order for it to fit into his garage he had the HS drop out's at Poulsbo remove the factory AC units and replace them with the low profile type. When we went to pick the motorhome up the " Mechanic " said the front two vents will not work with the low profile AC units because the return is to close and Bla, Bla, Bla. He was full of it again.
I said to him the only reason the front two vents do not work is his inability to want to go through the extra work of ducting.

After a long battle of words the idiot agreed that he could do it but it would take a long time to do it.

I told him it took a long time to earn $ 100.000.00 so get with it.

I love my Bounder and Plan on purchasing another in 4 years when I retire. I guess it will be ok as long as I do not expect anything to much. I plan on doing my own repairs and warranty work.

I let everyone know about the people who treat me right. I don't usually say much about the jerks that treat us consumers bad. Your website did get me going.

Have fun RVing
The Bounder is an ok RV

Karl F
   
 
  Date:   Wednesday May 15, 2002 - 08:30PM    
  Name:   Suzy    
  Email:   SUUZinAZ@aol.com    
  Comments:   Hello,

My parents and I just purchased a 2000 Bounder 34T. We are absolutely new to RVing. We are planning what my dad calls a last hurrah of RVing for 3 to 4 months around the US and Canada. We are planning on putting about 10k miles on it.

As we are newbies do you have any words of wisdom? Also how do you like your Bounder? We looked at several models and although I liked new my dad wanted used. We all were really impressed with this Bounder. Although it had 12000 miles on it, it looked as if the kitchen appliances were never used.

Happy Travels,
Suzy
   
 
  Date:   Friday May 24, 2002 - 04:39PM    
  Name:   Steve Mantey    
  Email:   mantey@cox-internet.com    
  Comments:   I'm in the process (looking) to buy a moterhome. Thanks for the heads up about Poulsbo.... I'll steer clear..
Steve
   
 
  Date:   Sunday June 2, 2002 - 03:05PM    
  Name:   mike    
  Email:   rabbit1usa@yahoo.com    
  Location:   washington    
  Comments:   you people have big problems,mentally, Ive bought 7 motorhomes and different trailers from poulsbo in everett, they have a great service center and service manager,,Larry has been the greatest, What you guys are feeling is "why did we spend money that we didnt have", buyers remoarse, Your more angry at yourselves so you want to take it out on other people,,, people like you are the reason why the world is like it is. You dont have anything else to complain about so lets make up something... I hope you break down every trip you take,, and i will just wave at you as i pass you by with my new R.V. from Poulsbo Everett,, Hope we never meet,,,,    
 
  Date:   Wednesday June 12, 2002 - 08:00PM    
  Name:   Tom Wolf    
  Email:   twolf@wolfenet.com    
  Comments:   06/12/02

Sad story, but goes to show that big money advertizing pays off regardless of your reputation.

I would not buy from them after your story.

Our family has treaveled over 200,000 miles in motorhomes.

Have a great time

Tom Wolf

ps: I was looking for a owner rental motorhome when I found your sight, if you know of any in the greater seattle area, please let me know.
   
 
  Date:   Wednesday June 26, 2002 - 09:59AM    
  Email:   ALANFIGLIOLA@aol.com    
  Location:   TACOMA WASH    
  Comments:   I HAPPENED UPON YOUR SITE MERELY BY CHANCE. I AM ABOUT TO EMBARK ON AN ADVENTURE VERY SIMILAR TO YOURS. I AM NOW SHOPPING FOR A COACH. IT IS NICE THAT YOU SHARE YOUR GOOD AND BAD TIMES ON HERE IT MAKES US ALL A BIT BETTER INFORMED AS WHAT TO EXPECT BEING A ROOKIE AT RVING! THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE HEADS UP ON POULSBO RV! INCIDENTALLY I LIVE IN TACOMA WASH SO WE ARE FELLOW WASHINGTONIANS. THANKS AGAIN FOR YOU INSIGHT!

ALAN FIGLIOLA
   
 
  Date:   Wednesday July 3, 2002 - 08:05AM    
  Name:   Joanne Mueller    
  Email:   JCMPelican@aol.com    
  Location:   Minneapolis, Minnesota    
  Comments:   Hi - Are you aware that both spots on your site for sending email contains the email address for the Poulsbo RV????

I am sorry to hear about all your problems with the carbon monoxide issue. Did either of you spend several hours receiving oxygen in the ER and/or receive a copy of your carbon monoxide levels?

My brother and his female companion have been living a "carbon monixide nightmare" since their motorhome purchase in November (not the same type).

The Ford garage could not find any engine leaks, etc. The motorhome was then taken to an RV dealer. An arson investigator for the RV dealer who sold the motorhome (another state), arrived and said "there is absolutely no carbon monoxide leak......your levels were low (as in "no big deal)......AND he stated "all motorhomes have carbon monoxide leaks....."

Skip (my brother) became seriously ill while in the mountains in Colorado. ER thought "meningitis." He mysteriously began to improve after having a heart attack (they never idenified just WHAT had been making him so sick). He had been dizzy, bad headache and vomiting (all possible signs of carbon monoxide poisoning). Of course, "altitude" could have worsened his problems.

His companion and he had been feeling dizzy ever since picking the motorhome up in November. She developed worsening symptoms of epilepsy and also went to ER's all over the southwest and west due to "dizziness" ever since living in the motorhome.

Both of them were in the ER overnight about a week ago. His level was down to 5.8 and her level was down to 11.8 by the time they drove about 15 miles to the ER with at least one window was down and waited for the tests, etc. They had both been dizzy and nauseous and were kept on oxygen for 4-5 hours. The hospital was not able to get the test results until a day later so perhaps they were being cautious by keeping them on the oxygen but I think they went by their overall appearance and description of symptoms.

The info you have on your site is helpful. I don't think in their case it is the furnace but it very well could have something to do with the generator. However, they were not using the generator when they got sick once again driving along and went to the ER a couple days after the first "monoxide incident." Skip had made sure his window was all the way down and Stephanie's was also down. This second time Stephanie's level was 5.7 or 5.8 and Skip did not have his level checked due to need to make phone calls outside the hospital, etc.

The vehicle was towed 80+ miles and as I said, the Ford garage did not find anything wrong. We think the Arson Investigator may be lying and that they most likely found something that had not been properly sealed. Think Skip thought the spot around some battery cable installation needed to be filled, etc.

He has contacted a Product Liability/Personal Injury Attorney as of last night.

If you have any other information in regard to carbon monoxide and motorhomes, I would be extremely grateful to receive same!!!!! Take care - Joanne Mueller P.S. If you have any info that can be copied and mailed, I would be glad to pay you for the expenses of copying, mailing, PLUS whatever you want for gas and inconvenience....... P.S. "Snuggles" is ADORABLE and I hope both of you and Snuggles are all well and enjoying life!!!!!
   
 
  Date:   Saturday July 13, 2002 - 01:14PM    
  Name:   Rick and Sally Russell    
  Email:   RICHARD.B.RUSSELL@GTE.NET    
  Location:   Lynnwood, WA    
  Comments:   Sally and I were just talking about you the other day. Thought I might try to see what you're up to, and it looks like fun!! Drop us a line one of these days...    
 
  Date:   Tuesday August 6, 2002 - 07:48PM    
  Name:   Joe and Debbie Coates    
  Email:   joedeb@olypen.com    
  Location:   Port Townsend, Wa.    
  Comments:   Hello Ellingsons & Pooch,

We may starting thru the same things you encountered from Everett Poulsbo RV.
There were only a few things on our fixit list when we signed to buy this Storm 31W, but 10 days later when we picked it up there were a dozen more things to be added to the list. Especially after the three - way ProPack treatment, (1)Grease on the couch,
(2) a rainsoaked coushin in the dinette, (3) undercoating smeared on the outersides of the body, (4) a missing sliding glass door in the bedroom closet,(5) no closet pole or brackets for same ever installed in bedroom closet, (6) a 39" shelf missing over sink in cabinet, (7) a 5" tear in end of mattress facing bedroom door, (8)kitchen faucett doesn't allow water but yet good pressure in bath sink,(9)the larger oven that we had asked for did not get installed and now are quoting an extra 5 hours labor to install in addition to the original quote of 2 hours, (10) the door covering the TV in the bedroom does not open all the way for the TV to be viewed, (11) someone has gone on the white rubber roof and caulked around vents and air-cond. with GRAY and some white caulking and then tracked the GRAY on their boots to the ladder, (12)there are areas under the coach that didn't get undercoating,(13) the cover over the burners on the cook-top is missing,it was there when we bought the unit,(14) the wood on top of the dashboard with the little rubber pad on it has extra holes drilled in the wrong places, and then the trip thru the parts store to get the little necessary items that we would absolutely need such as pressure reducing valve, water hook-up hose, electrical connecter, and the such the store was out of. What an award winning adventure that was ? !
Now that I had called them with this list and also faxed a copy last week early to let them know that the earliest we could get all the way back over there from here on the Olympic Penninsula would be the start of our vacation Aug, 13, and now I call a week later and they hadn't even put us on the schedule for that day.
I am going to write a log book complete with pictures, so maybe my expreiences would co-oberate your problems. What do you think ? Please respond.

Joe and Debbie Coates and "Trouble" (our mini- dashhound)
283652 Highway 101
Port Townsend, Wa. 98368
   
 
  Date:   Friday August 9, 2002 - 12:37PM    
  Name:   Carol    
  Email:   mittie@stargate.net    
  Location:   Pa.    
  Comments:   Great web page, also great story. I must admit I'm getting scared now. We have been looking at motor homes for the past several months, Bounders, in fact. This would be our first, although we have been renting for three years. I told my husband I don't know why there are always problems when you pay a fortune for the motor homes. I may change my mind about this now. Great talking to you. Carol    
 
  Date:   Wednesday August 14, 2002 - 03:50PM    
  Name:   Steve Harrington    
  Email:   harrington@richpoor.net    
  Location:   Marysville    
  Homepage:   http://www.aarvservices.com/    
  Comments:  <