., , , __,_ __/ _ __. __ __/ _, . . o / __.__ (_(_/_(_) (_(_(_/_)_ (_(_/) )_(_(_ (_)_(_/_(_(__(_(_/(_ __________________________________________/| _________________________________________|/ -------------- BEGIN wordsandguitar.v001.n330 -------------- 001 - Djuna2@aol.com - Re: Digest wordsandguitar.v001.n321 002 - CallDoctor@aol.com - Re: Digest wordsandguitar.v001.n329 003 - "Michael Durian" - detroit 013 - JButter24@aol.com - atlanta 014 - JButter24@aol.com - Quasi/Elliott Smith 015 - Susan Farmer of AG 387-18 - New Hole Album 016 - Natalie Brundage > are the need still playing?? --leigh --------------- MESSAGE wordsandguitar.v001.n330.3 --------------- From: "Michael Durian" Subject: member profile page Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:38:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01BDDB68.B07E7080" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BDDB68.B07E7080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ~amber i think the member profile page is an awesome idea and it will give = everybody on the list the opportunity to learn more about the other = people on the list and know what they look like also. however, there are = some people, like me, that don't have scanners and would need the help = of someone on the list to scan a picture for them. please post the = addresses of the 3 people that you said would help out in scanning these = pics. also, i just got a new computer so all my bookmarks are gone, so = could you post the address to the new words and guitar page? thanks = cause i need to fill out the thing so i can get my member profile to = you. later. mike durian skat@erinet.com ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BDDB68.B07E7080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

~amber

i think the member profile page is = an awesome=20 idea and it will give everybody on the list the opportunity to learn = more about=20 the other people on the list and know what they look like also. however, = there=20 are some people, like me, that don't have scanners and would need the = help of=20 someone on the list to scan a picture for them. please post the = addresses of the=20 3 people that you said would help out in scanning these pics. also, i = just got a=20 new computer so all my bookmarks are gone, so could you post the address = to the=20 new words and guitar page? thanks cause i need to fill out the thing so = i can=20 get my member profile to you. later.

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------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BDDB68.B07E7080-- --------------- MESSAGE wordsandguitar.v001.n330.4 --------------- From: "james brundage" Subject: paul zine needs your help! Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 18:19:32 PDT Content-Type: text/plain hi kids- i've been watching the list, but i don't post that much. anyway... i'm doing a zine called "paul," and if you've any adds or what ever, i'd be happy to print them. if you run a record or tape label and want reviews done, i'd love to review whatever you put out. please email me off the list: "kevinarnoldd@hotmail.com" or mail me what-ev: james brundage/1112 morningwood la/great falls va, 22066 thank you! james ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------- MESSAGE wordsandguitar.v001.n330.5 --------------- From: "Idio*Sin*Crisis" Subject: Re: Digest wordsandguitar.v001.n329 Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 20:58:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit mr mustard wrote>>> I got the new Hole album and it is so, so, so, so, so, awful!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Die hard Hole fans are going to be very disappointed and disgusted with this > highly anticipated and longly overdue album. well i got the new album and i'm a die hard hole fan and i LOVE it. i think ti's beautiful. different but really good. i think it's rather capricious and general of you to say that all die hard hole fans will be very disappointed. he also wrote>>> They kicked Patty out the band for her > drug usage. Very ironic of Courtney, don't you think? au contraire. patty has NOT been kicked out. she is still very much a member of the band. just on personal holiday. you sure do like to presume things he hit so hard i saw God i love you i love you peace love empathy~~courtney saffron donovan §they broke me. they made me like this. now they have to deal with me. my broken pieces and my shattered soul.§ http://members.tripod.com/~courtney_saffron/index-7.html --------------- MESSAGE wordsandguitar.v001.n330.6 --------------- From: Josh Davlin Subject: Liz tickets Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 22:06:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: <199809082010.NAA13186@lists1.best.com> I >wanna see Liz Phair!!! grrr...she's supposed to play Roseland Oct. 8 but >Ticketmaster like "huh? what? who?" oh well... i encountered same problem regarding Liz's DC show Oct. 5. Just heard today from someone at the 9:30club that the show will be announced this Thursday. presumably, the same will be the case for NYC, tho i wouldnt bet money on that. jd --------------- MESSAGE wordsandguitar.v001.n330.7 --------------- From: MC Subject: Re: Digest wordsandguitar.v001.n329 Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 22:31:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii <<>> ---Yeah, i got the album. Unfortunatly I didn't listen to it before I bought it, cuz i probably wouldn't have gotten it if i had. I like 3 songs on it...Celebrity Skin, Boys On the Radio, and Playing Your Song. Boys on The Radio is basically Sugar Coma redone. When I bought it the artwork had me worried, and I should have thought more about it, but I used to be such a big hole fan that i had to get it. I dunno, I don't like how she sings on the album. I guess I'll give it more time to grow on me, but right now i'm very sad, because i wanted it to be good. xoxo, mary _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------- MESSAGE wordsandguitar.v001.n330.8 --------------- From: Sonic1979X@aol.com Subject: Promise Ring/Jets to Brazil tour Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:55:45 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tour dates for the Promise Ring, Wisconsin's rockin, catchy, poppy, emo/indie rock boys(ex members of chicago's legends: The Cap N' Jazz) touring with Jets to Brazil(ex members of Jawbreaker and Texas is the Reason)..A MUST SEE TOUR Promise Ring/Jets to Brazil Tour October 1 Detroit, MI Magic Stick October 2 Chicago, IL Fireside Bowl October 3 Minneapolis, MN The Whole October 4 TBA October 5 Denver, CO Bluebird Theatre October 6 off October 7 Salt Lake City, UT Tower Theatre October 8 Off October 9 Portland, OR La Luna October 10 Seattle, WA Rockcandy W/ Pedro the Lion October 11 Vancouver, BC Starfish Room October 12 Off October 13 Sacremento TBA October 14 San Francisco, CA Bottom of the Hill October 15 San Francisco, CA Bottom of the Hill W/ Jimmy Eat World October 16 Los Angeles, CA Troubadour W/ Jimmy Eat World October 17 Los Angeles, CA Troubadour October 18 Phoenix, AZ Boston's W/ Jimmy Eat World October 19 TBA October 20 Off October 21 Austin, TX Emo's October 22 Denton, TX Rubber Gloves October 23 Houston, TX Fitzgeralds October 24 Baton Rouge, LA Bayou October 25 Memphis, TN Barristers October 26 Off October 27 Jacksonville, FL Moto Bar October 28 Orlando, FL Sapphire Supper Club October 29 Atlanta, GA The Point October 30 Chapel Hill, NC Cats Cradle October 31 Philadelphia, PA TLA November 1 Washington, DC Black Cat November 2 Boston, MA Middle East (Downstairs) November 3 TBA November 4 New York, NY Tramps November 5 TBA November 6 Montreal, QE TBA November 7 Ottawa, ON TBA November 8 Toronto, ON TBA November 9 Cleveland, OH Grog Shop November 10 Cincinnati, OH Sudsey Malones November 11 Louisville, KY Mercury Paw November 12 TBA November 13 Champaign, IL TBA November 14 Milwaukee, WI TB --------------- MESSAGE wordsandguitar.v001.n330.9 --------------- From: Sonic1979X@aol.com Subject: Re: Digest wordsandguitar.v001.n329 Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 03:59:09 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joan of Arc mini tour/shows..(ex members of cap n jazz) very melodic indie.emo stuff with great sound effects! SEPT 18 MADISON, WI UNIV OF WI W/ CALIFONE, BLACK HEART PROCESSION SEPT 25 CHICAGO, IL LOUNGE AX W/ GHOSTS AND VODKA OCT 9 CHICAGO, IL FIRESIDE BOWL W/ IDA --------------- MESSAGE wordsandguitar.v001.n330.10 --------------- From: james robert mustard Subject: furthering into the Hole Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:33:33 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Further comments and thoughts on Hole's new album! >Thanks for your response to my thoughts on the new Hole album! I totally agree with you that some songs may be catchy if you listen to it like a 1000 times or something, but let's face it, this album by no means sounds like any other Hole album and I should know being a huge Hole fan. I have like 40 Hole cds, so if that is any indication of how big of a Hole fan I was. But I have listened to the album a few more times since I posted the review on the Sleater-Kinney Digest, and well, I still do not like it. Especially track 2 called "Awful" and indeed it is. I mean starting out with lyrics like "Sweet Low Sweet Cherry". Ughh...................... >However, since my last review I have reconsidered some tracks to be okay, well sort of, such as track 6 "Dying". But still for the most part, the album sucks! >I realize Courtney idolizes Fleetwood Mac, but I think Fleetwood Mac is an incredible boring band. And I especially hate Stevie Nicks. She has not contributed to the great female influence hype contrary to belief. All Stevie does is put on exotic dresses to hide her probably fat body and then occasionally shakes the tamborine on stage. Well, so what!!!! She is lame!!! >And well, as for Billy, he has turned into a whiney puss also in search for some kind of celebrity status. >I was really so hoping this new Hole album would restore my faith in rock 'n' roll because lets face it, great albums coming out anymore are few and far between. So, when I heard the album, I was literally devastated. And it sounds as if you were too. So, you must admit, this is not a great rock album. Maybe it would sound better live ?! >As for the Spin feature, I realize you cannot believe everything you read, however, Courtney insisted that the interview be both audio and video taped; therefore, I would consider it to be fairly accurate. Given that, I certainly do not like what she has become. The article starts off by saying how she was hanging out with Al Gore. This was the first thing to blow me away. I do not like bands who hang out with political figures (i.e. Fleetwood Mac, etc), so this was my first tip off. Music is supposed to rebel politics (or at least in my opinion). Read the article, you will understand. All on the up, it really depicts her a shallow person, and of course, a huge back stabbing manipulator. Even before I read this article, that is one problem I always had with Courtney. She is constantly backstabbing people whom she is jealous of (i.e. PJ Harvey, Madonna, Alanis Morrissette). So, what really pisses me off is the fact that Courtney claims Alanis Morrissette makes horrible albums, well Courtney needs to take a listen to her new album "Sweet Low Sweet Cherry" (yikes!!!!ughh......). This new album almost makes you wish for an Alanis Morrissette album! At least Alanis does not sing "Sweet Low Sweet Cherry". I swear that lyric grosses me out. My Mom listened to it last night and even she thought it was bad. My Mom had even liked the album "Live Through This" for my Mom is a fan a huge fan of Janis Joplin (being that is more of her time period) and she thought Courtney and Hole's "Live Through This" was an excellent album album to the likes of her liking for Janis. However, she thought the new album was filled with cheesy lyrics and far too overproduced, not having the raw edge like "Live Through This" or something by Janis. >As for Patty, that one has devastated me. Patty is the one who often held the band together live for a few times I saw Hole in concert Courntey and Eric played very, very sloppy and Patty often got them back on track. Who cares if Patty likes drugs?! I would bet that lame ass Courtney is still privately doing them as we speak. Once again, she is backstabber. I think she would probably sell her daughter if she was promised to get a huge star lead in a movie in exchange for it. >My point being, I do agree with some of your thoughts, however, you must admit the first listen to "Celebrity Skin" did not blow you away, not like "Live Through This" did. So, if her old fans are not blown away, do you honestly think she is going to attract new ones? >Well, now I am going to have to wait for Sleater-Kinney's new one to restore my faith in my rock 'n' roll. And I am sure they will deliver!! >Thanks Again. >James > --------------- MESSAGE wordsandguitar.v001.n330.11 --------------- From: Rachel Kramer Bussel Subject: NYC shows Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:24:15 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just read about these in Time Out NY so I'm not sure if they're all correct. Well, Elliott Smith is doing an instore at Other Music at 6:30 on October 4, that I saw at the store itself so I'm pretty sure it's true. Oct 2 @ Acme - Pacific Ocean and Sarah Dougher!!!! Oct 10 @ Bowery Ballroom - MARY LOU LORD!!!! Oct 20 @ Acme - THe Hangovers/THe Ladybug Transistor/Of Montreal yay... rachel --------------- MESSAGE wordsandguitar.v001.n330.12 --------------- From: jimmy Subject: detroit Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 11:48:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" detroit tix for s-k @ magic stick are on sale now was at magic stick last nite and saw spinanes. EMPTY show. no one was there, it was pretty sad. but the band put on a great show. rebecca broke her string on the first song, which led to some impromptu billy bragg covers (he was playing downstairs). had fun visiting w/ kendall again (i want another helium/s-k tour!), and the spinanes told everyone to come see their friends quasi and sleater-kinney in october when they play the magic stick all in all a fun nite (tho, sadly, no "hawaiian baby")xjimmy --------------- MESSAGE wordsandguitar.v001.n330.13 --------------- From: JButter24@aol.com Subject: atlanta Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:53:15 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks for the detailed info about atlanta, mikey. that's exactly the kind of info that will help everyone out over here. xo julie --------------- MESSAGE wordsandguitar.v001.n330.14 --------------- From: JButter24@aol.com Subject: Quasi/Elliott Smith Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:01:10 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have these dates for Quasi/Elliott Smith subject to change--check the venue: September 16 Seattle Showbox 17 tba 18 Portland La Luna 19 San Francisco 7th Note 20 San Francisco 7th Note 21 tba 22 Los Angeles Roxy Theater 23 Los Angeles Roxy Theater 24 San Diego Brick by Brick 26 Austin Liberty Lunch 28 Atlanta Variety Playhouse 29 Carrboro Cat’s Cradle October 1 Washington DC Black Cat 2 Philadelphia Trocadero 3 New York Tramps 4 tba 5 Boston Paradise 6 Providence Lupo’s Heartbreak Hotel 7 Toronto Lee’s Palace 8 Detroit Magic Stick 9 Chicago Metro 10 Minneapolis 400 Bar --------------- MESSAGE wordsandguitar.v001.n330.15 --------------- From: Susan Farmer of AG 387-1866 Subject: New Hole Album Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 10:32:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Well, last night a few friends & I had a Hole listening party. We only bought 1 copy between us as we all are pretty down on Courtney, but I guess we still had some hope that the album might be good, I mean we had been waiting for it for a long, long time.. It's probably the worst thing I've heard since I don't know when. I fully agree with James's comments about it, although I don't know if I really feel that "Playing Your Song" was any better than the others (but I guess it was more in keeping with Hole's older material). We only listened to it once & it was a total chore. The music was incredibly basic, the lyrics were like high school poetry, it was completely over-produced, and, let's face it, Courtney just can't sing all that well (well, she does a good job singing "angry", just not when she tries to sing "pretty"). Her voice got soooo monotonous we were going insane. Although I didn't read it, I understand that the album got an amazing review in Rolling Stone (4 stars, I believe). I really don't understand how that's possible, but then again, there's a lot of music that I don't understand how people can listen to it. This was the unanimous opinion of us all & we all used to be the hugest fans & thought Courtney, herself, was pretty amazing. We actually wore out our copies of "Pretty on the Inside", we listened to them so much. To be honest, though, over the past couple of years, we've been getting pretty down on Courtney for a variety of reasons & while we were all gathering technically to hack it to death, we all were holding out some hope that it'd be surprisingly amazing. Instead though, I actually felt physically ill at times listening to the new album & although I decided not to, I seriously considered getting rid of all my 7"'s & CDs of theirs I own. Anyway, I think I'm starting to ramble. I just thankful that I didn't shell out any cash for this, & I seriously advise everyone considering purchasing the album to go somewhere that has a listening station to preview it. It was worse than I ever could have possibly imagined. Despite my negative opinion of it though, I'm sure it'll still end up being a huge commercial success & she'll make loads more $$. Susan --------------- MESSAGE wordsandguitar.v001.n330.16 --------------- From: Natalie Brundage Subject: help! unsubscribe me Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 16:12:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <199809082010.NAA13186@lists1.best.com> does anyone know how to unsubscribe me? thanks, I can't get off. --------------- MESSAGE wordsandguitar.v001.n330.17 --------------- From: Michael L Lythcott Subject: Re: Digest wordsandguitar.v001.n329 Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 19:19:44 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199809082010.NAA13186@lists1.best.com> hey everyone..im here at school being quite bored and im scanning all these pictures to make patches for my old beat up jacket and im making one of sleater kinney and an idea just hit me! i love to make stuff and as id love to make an SK patch that we can all wear during the tour..sorta a cool way of identifing yrself as a list member without having a lame "hello, my name is.." this way even if you think you recognize someone you think may be on the list, you wont hesitate to ask them who they are for fear of confusing that person with someone else..sides im bored and want something to do!! mikey* --------------- END wordsandguitar.v001.n330 --------------- @*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@*@* This list owned and maintained by bgrrrl. 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