1 00:00:05,560 --> 00:00:09,360 This is Kirsten Lundsgaardvig, a Danish women now a naturalized Norwegian, - 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:14,680 - just as colorful a duck as the art she creates. 3 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,040 She lives by herself in an old, registered house, - 4 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:30,560 - the former guard residence for the defunct Setesdalsbanen railroad. 5 00:00:46,260 --> 00:00:51,360 Where no one would believe that someone could be 6 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:58,000 We are in Homevassevje in West Agder county, on the border to East Agder county. 7 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,960 Shall the queen of the ball sit at the table? 8 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:25,920 Kirsten Lundsgaardvig, some words about yourself first. Who are you? 9 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:32,480 You can certainly ask. I am very special. 10 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:39,480 I am an artist, trained at the Royal Academy of Arts in Copenhagen. 11 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:45,720 You are also an internationally acclaimed artist. 12 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,560 We will come back to that. 13 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,560 How did you end up a Danish artist in Norway? 14 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,920 That's also very special. 15 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:04,280 In 1966 I was invited to the Skien Art Association. 16 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:10,440 There came a wonderful journalist named Thor Thorsen, - 17 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:16,120 - a journalist in Telemark Arbeiderblad The SA had just started up. 18 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,480 He was the great love of my life. 19 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:25,640 And out of that adorable relationship came our love child Nastasja. 20 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:33,240 When Nastasja was three years old, I thought that she should go to her dad's land. 21 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,680 She was a natural child and lived in the country along with her daughter, - 22 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,160 - until she moved out to to take care of her education. 23 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,760 When it was time to find her own little dream house. 24 00:02:51,980 --> 00:02:57,080 Then I began to look for myself for a place with solitude. 25 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,360 And this house was for sale. 26 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,920 -What kind of house is it? -It's an old guard house. 27 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:12,320 But the house was moved from the Kile valley. 28 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:17,120 There is was a farmhouse in the Swiss style. 29 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:23,160 Then it was moved down here when the railroad was built ... 30 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,040 ... when Setesdalsbanen was built in 1889. 31 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:33,960 First it was a worker housing, and the guards lived here for many years. 32 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,080 But then it became my house, and I love it. 33 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:44,760 Here are the mostly ancient things, - 34 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:52,120 - except for a hot tub in the middle of the kitchen. 35 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,040 The tub fills half of my life. 36 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:01,280 In the beginning I had a shower. 37 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:08,280 So when I had dinner guests, they sat and stared into it. 38 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,160 Is it often used? -Three times a day. 39 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:17,240 -Cleanliness is good. -Does much dance out on the floor? 40 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,160 I splash more than a little. 41 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:30,480 You have neither a bathroom, nor a watercloset, but an ... 42 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:35,280 -... outhouse! -You are not stuffy. 43 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,320 I've never been. But the house is under preservation. 44 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,160 I'm not allowed to do anything. Not that I would dream of it. 45 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:49,720 I love everything that is old. 46 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:23,240 Now we are in the best room. Here is the traditional spirit. 47 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:29,240 A poster-bed t.o.m. -It came from Telemark. 48 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:35,600 It can be extended, so two can be in it. 49 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,400 Have you bought all these things? 50 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:47,000 I had an uncle who was an auctioneer in Skien in Telemark. 51 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:53,560 I was so in love with all the old, so I looked him deep in his eyes and said: 52 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,680 "Oh, Uncle Marthinius, that poster bed, that table ...!" 53 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,240 He said: "Yes, yes, Kirsten. Just go." 54 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:06,240 The only thing I have bought, this table. 55 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,720 You also have many small antiques: Iron ... 56 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:17,880 -What are the things on the stone back there? -An egg boiler. 57 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,000 They must have put spirits in it. It was good enough to boil eggs. 58 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:28,360 -Are you using it? - Yes. -Every single morning. - No! 59 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,000 But they used it in the old days. 60 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:37,840 -The bowl behind you, then? -That's an old spit bucket. 61 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:43,560 It stood in the grocery store my grandparents had. 62 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,760 The people spat in it. 63 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:51,280 -Do you use it too? -Just as it is. 64 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,560 It is very funny. I'm very fond of it. 65 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:00,440 Here you stay completely alone - 66 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:05,120 - far from people, in an old house full of stories. 67 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,600 -Isn't it scary? -Never. 68 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:15,520 Had I been afraid, I wouldn't have been able to stay here. 69 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:23,440 Here in the house, some ghosts. A joke. 70 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:30,800 The house was first worker barracks. And the workers cleaned it up again. 71 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:37,080 -Have you seen them? -No, but I hear them. 72 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:44,520 They speak out of the windows, and there are strange things in the house. 73 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:50,080 Doors that open and close. They go up the stairs to the studio. 74 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:55,520 I could write a book about everything that's strange here, but I love them. 75 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,160 I'm never alone, and they suit me well. 76 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:07,240 It is beautiful to live here alone with 13 workers. 77 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:19,200 In this room lived my old mother for 5 years. 78 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:26,560 There stood her four-poster bed. She died at age 99. 79 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:33,040 On the wall, I have two photographs and a painting that - 80 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:38,520 - a Danish colleague, Birthe Ohsten, has painted of my mother. 81 00:08:38,680 --> 00:08:41,960 She is so like ... 82 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:48,400 We must not forget that we stand next to another artist, too. 83 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:55,400 -I assume you have a studio. -Then I think we should go up and see. 84 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,280 Watch your head on the beam. 85 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:07,000 -I thought it was a high ceiling. -Yes, but not exactly there. 86 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:12,280 -Here are the colors! -You visit a colorful artist. 87 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:17,960 You got that right. Is that the sun and moon - the universe? 88 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:24,560 It is the universe. I am completely gripped by it. 89 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:31,200 Do you have periods of one subject and then another? 90 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:37,200 I have had many weird periods, but at the moment it's the universe. 91 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:42,320 -I have painted flowers and chickens. -Grouse? 92 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:48,240 I had a wild fowls period. Then I ate chicken for years and years. 93 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:54,640 I sat in a poultry farm for 14 days and painted chickens. Many years ago. 94 00:09:54,800 --> 00:10:01,760 Even then, it was clear, and I knew that I would become an artist. 95 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:08,040 I have a special technique. I meditate on the canvas's layer upon layer - 96 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:14,520 - until I have the desired structure, and then I paint the subject. 97 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:39,640 -Is that the madonna with child? -Yes, it's the Virgin Mary. 98 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:46,080 So in all your color splendor are you a religious person? 99 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:51,680 More or less. I am a Catholic. 100 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:57,480 The Virgin Mary means a lot to me. 101 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:04,960 -You go to confession too? -Yes, I do just as it is. 102 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:11,960 And it is a good thing. One need not have sinned. 103 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:17,640 It means a lot to have nice conversations with the Father. 104 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:23,880 Many years ago I had eyelid lift surgery. 105 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:31,600 After I had the stitches taken out, I had booked a time to confess. 106 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:37,560 I forgot that I looked gruesome out, blue and green ... 107 00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:43,680 When I came to the church, the clerk was so horrified - 108 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:50,200 - that he called the priest, and before I took a breath, he took my confession. 109 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:55,320 It shocked me, the urgency of it. 110 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:00,960 And the strange thing was I was given last rites. 111 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:07,480 When I came out, I thought: I have received the last rites! 112 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,400 I was in complete turmoil. 113 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:17,600 He thought you were near death due to a facelift ... 114 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:23,120 No, the eyelids. I was yellow and blue and green and did not look good. 115 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:28,600 But I had forgotten when I had the stitches out. 116 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,720 Lifting eyelids ... Are you vain? 117 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:42,160 One must take care of ones self. It must be done. 118 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:51,160 But shouldn't you find a more southern house of worship? 119 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:57,960 It would never occur to me. I go where my legs take me. 120 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:05,480 Those who go to the chapel houses ... It is pure fanaticism. 121 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:10,640 They dare not live your life, the life to be lived. 122 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,680 They are afraid of the unknown and judgmental ... 123 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,680 No, in a chapel is not for me. 124 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:37,040 How was it to get here as an artist and gain acceptance? 125 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:43,640 It was hell on earth. Totally fearful. 126 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:50,040 I have never experienced anything like the envy here in Norway. 127 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,880 There is envy in all countries - 128 00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:01,360 - but in Norway it is extreme in art circles. 129 00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:11,120 She is certainly well received by pupils at a school in the neighborhood. 130 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,720 For Kirsten she is a nice, little girl, 131 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:21,400 and it is so nice to have you here. 132 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:28,440 Sometimes Kirsten teaches art in schools and other institutions. 133 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:35,280 When you begin to paint, it is important to clean the brushes - 134 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:40,000 - every time you change color, - 135 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,520 - so you have clean and clear colors. 136 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:49,640 Yes, the worst thing I know is murky colors. 137 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,280 Then blend here ... 138 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:11,200 Vennesla commune have invited her to a character class. 139 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:16,360 The past 10-12 years she has visited each school a couple of times a year. 140 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:21,080 In addition, she provides education to people with mental illnesses. 141 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,640 That's what I like best. 142 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:31,600 In particular, the schizophrenics. They are incredibly close to my heart. 143 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:38,000 Is painting a form of therapy, then? -Yes. Very much so... 144 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:46,280 The schizophrenics have their fantasies which are not true. So yes. 145 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:02,840 Our lush lady has her own fan club, called "Kirstens Friends". 146 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,280 A couple of nights a year they come to her home to look at art - 147 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,840 - and to have a pleasant evening along with the artist. 148 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:18,280 Jan M. Wesenberg I saw Kirsten's paintings 25 years ago in the station at Hægeland. 149 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:24,520 I noticed the exuberant colors, flowers, angels, - 150 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,880 - Setesdalsbanen and a bit of everything. That such a bubbly lady - 151 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:35,400 - also thrives in solitude here, shows her strong will. 152 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:41,200 -Place her as an artist. -She has a rare originality. 153 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,880 In Norway you find nothing else like Kirsten Lundsgaardvigs work. 154 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,560 They are so special that they have a huge intrinsic value. 155 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:56,160 Some are with Kirstens Friends, who each have one or several pictures by her. 156 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,880 The members are a support group, and it has often come in handy, - 157 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,120 - especially when she was new and struggled to gain access. 158 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:10,600 Solveig Nordvist: She has struggled plenty to be accepted in the art world. 159 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,400 It is difficult to get into an established arts scene. 160 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,920 She is a wonderful lady. She includes everyone. 161 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,120 It can also be daunting for some. 162 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:34,680 She flourishes outdoors, and the most colorful duck flowers, - 163 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:40,880 - Kirsten herself, painting in her garden in her summer attire - Eve's costume. 164 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:51,480 This is Kirsten in the Garden of Eden. You are not shy ... 165 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:57,800 Shy, I have never been, and that I will never be. 166 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:04,240 In my youth I was a model for the Royal Academy of Arts in Copenhagen. 167 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:10,040 -This seems to me quite natural. -What does the madonna make of this? 168 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,640 -She is thrilled. -You're sure? 169 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,380 -The priest also? -Very excited. 170 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:24,920 -Has he seen you? -Yes, but I looked a little different. 171 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:31,600 Roses on the boots ... Why boots? 172 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:37,440 I am using boots every summer and all summer through. 173 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:45,360 For I am terrified of snakes. And this year it is actually ... 174 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:51,680 -It is the serpent in paradise ... -Yes, there are many snakes. 175 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,600 And this year it is really a snakefest. 176 00:18:55,720 --> 00:19:01,440 You're used to standing in your garden and painting dressed like Eve? 177 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:06,000 -Yes. That's what I love. -Why is that? 178 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:12,120 Then I am in contact with nature. That's what I do whenever the weather allows. 179 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:18,560 -But when there are people? -That has happened. 180 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:24,920 Years ago when I painted here in only the rubber boots ... 181 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:30,280 Suddenly I felt that was someone was nearby. I looked up, - 182 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,920 - and there stood a man from the Vennesla commune. 183 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:40,040 He only said "hi", so I said "hi" and I thought: 184 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:46,440 "How can I get to my painting frock?" 185 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:52,800 But I let on like it wasn't me and went in and got my paint coat. 186 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:59,360 After that episode I call him every summer and say: 187 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:05,000 "Now the rubber boots have come." 188 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,080 It is beautiful here, but it is so heavenly beautiful? 189 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:55,760 My garden is heavenly beautiful, but the sign is very funny. 190 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:02,000 It refers to the end of the garden, where there is a drop down, so ... 191 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,840 So if you fall off, Heaven is next? 192 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,960 That's the point? You sure have a sense of humor. 193 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:17,240 Without humor, I could not live. 194 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:23,120 -Do you have a sense of nature as well? -I love nature. 195 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,640 It means everything to me. 196 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:33,360 And the nature around Homevassevje inspires me greatly in my work. 197 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:38,200 -Take us on a tour. -Certainly. 198 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:45,240 I suggest that we go down the old route of the Setesdalsbanen. 199 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:08,680 This is Otra flowing down here. The river is regulated. 200 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:15,480 But when the water flows as in times past, there is first one then another idyll. 201 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,600 Kirsten often takes grandchildren with her, Trine and Jonas, - 202 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,640 - to the bathing place on the banks of the Otra. 203 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,840 Now lets talk about summer memories from when the children were young. 204 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:36,200 You were just two years and loved to go on walks. 205 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:41,880 I made lunch for you and your friend "Sapp". You couldn't say "f". 206 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:51,680 We walked around and sat in front of the house. Then you said: 207 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,360 "Granny, we are on tour now?" 208 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,080 Occasionally some good friends visit her, for - 209 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:19,080 - coffee on the terrace. When there, Trine and Jonas do kitchen service. 210 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:24,920 She takes care of her guests, prominent guests too, including: 211 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:30,280 A doctor, a policeman and a director. 212 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,320 She has a sense for fine men with good titles. 213 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:39,320 I love being with the upper class. 214 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:45,240 -The proletariat, then? -There is nothing for me. 215 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:49,400 No, there has never been. 216 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:56,360 What is it about her that makes you find joy in her company? 217 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:03,480 Egil Lie: I am a hunter, and I find so many things. There is one reason. 218 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:11,040 We have done research: it's rumored that you're good to kiss. 219 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,720 Eivind Mår Hannås: Have you done research throughout the South? 220 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,320 Is there a need to? 221 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:28,880 Kirsten has regular visitors. Now Johan Christian Sandvand arrives. 222 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:35,080 He is a writer and poet, and Kirsten has illustrated poems by him. 223 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:41,920 Run barefoot in the clover, knowing meadow flowers that tickle your toes, 224 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:48,640 sleep naked in a flowery meadow, feel the wind rising that swallows the hills, 225 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:54,960 digging worms behind the barn wall, see violets as springs, 226 00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:01,560 pick smell from the white wild cherry - it was the joy of a little boy. 227 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:07,240 Such moments are sweet memories a leisurely day in a small hamlet. 228 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:14,240 If I'm looking, I think I'll almost find that moment again. 229 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:19,600 Johan Christian, that poem is so beautiful. 230 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:26,840 They are simple poems which have much of nature. 231 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:33,640 I knew of Kirsten's templates with bright colors and many colors - 232 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,800 - and lots of nature. So we felt - 233 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:45,600 - that it went well with my form. 234 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:54,080 Now your partnership has lasted one or two years. 235 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:59,760 So the visual artist sets a good price for the poet and poetry? 236 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:06,520 I love his poems, and they are so inspiring. 237 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:12,960 Do you remember when I was painting the picture of twilight? 238 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:19,400 Then you said: "Kirsten, you might be unable. It will be difficult. " 239 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,880 It would be a dark image, but I did it. 240 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,760 I got a great light into it. 241 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:33,760 At the burial mounds hill people dance a slow waltz with our senses, 242 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:40,360 while the deep boom rolls warning over the fire black sky. 243 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:46,240 In the forest deep breathing heavily twilight of beliefs 244 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:53,280 when the moon lit ghostly in the juniper bushes, and the haze is a legend of the water. 245 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,800 We have come to know that you're an outgoing and bubbly lady. 246 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:18,440 At the same time you live here alone. Isn't that a contradiction? 247 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:24,000 Not at all, for I am and will be a hermit. 248 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:29,640 In order to paint my pictures I must live in total solitude. 249 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:36,840 I can be social, but basically I am not very social. 250 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:46,000 You are young and rich and colorful, but years say that you have lived for a while. 251 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:51,960 What about the unknown future? 252 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:57,240 I want that, for I am an optimist. 253 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:03,880 The day I leave this world, I hope they carry me from here. 254 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,920 Because I want to be here until I can't manage anymore. 255 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,280 If it is head first or feet - it will be feet. 256 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,320 But I want to be here until I leave this world. 257 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,290 [English subtitles: Lex Ein] 258 00:28:52,399 --> 00:28:56,360 [lexein-subs at yahoo dot com] 259 00:28:56,561 --> 00:28:56,562 Tue Dec 15 2009 20:03:37 many corr