VIVA NETSCAPE! NO BETTER BROWSER/ MAIL CLIENT COMBINED exists. The browser part has GOOGLE as a home page. I can read my email. If a friend sends me an URL I pop that letter to my GMAIL mailbox over at my MOZILLA FIREFOX browser, which is fab for web surfing, but has no built in mail client of value.

My NETSCAPE browser has the mail client of all time. You can collate by SENDER, DATE, SIZE (for erasing old emails that are too big), and SUBJECT which is useful for my writing book corps. I have all book letters as DEAR BAYCITY BOOKS, DEAR DAYSTAR BOOKS. And collated, I can find all correspondence of mine to the book store with that subject line and all to me, if they kept the subject line as is. If not, choosing to collate on the DATE will find their response.

THE ONE drawback to having the ancient, venerable, NETSCAPE BROWSER VERSION 4.7 is you surf to a high tech website, you get a minor jam, and will have to reboot the entire PC due to netscape browser no longer being able to read the text of some emails.

First time this happened, I'd surfed to a bells and whistles website looked around, came back to my BROWSER and noted jams. I wondered was my Netscape Vers 4.7 glitched or did the PC have a virus? Or was the CIA attacking me thru chinks? I have a firewall. I felt probably NOBODY did this to me in spite of my numerous articles and websites against the Iraq War, taxation, No study subsidies for children who had to have a teen age job, so no college for them. and l000 other subjects including how NOT to pay taxes.

When netscape freezes, I CANNOT DO ORDINARY THINGS like:

a.) highlight part of an email to send it on.

b.)click on and open attached files. When this first occured, I freaked and turned ALL VIRUS PROTECTION SOFTWARE OFF, then UNINSTALLED IT. But that did nothing. So I turned them back on and  turned ZONE ALARM BACK ON. So I'm not infected. Something inside my machine had just grabbed my Netscape by the nuts and was not letting go.

I was ignorant at first, felt maybe I should take MAILLAUNDERER.exe and totally get it off the hard drive? See if any virus protection like ML or NORTONS has some vestige on a hard drive somewhere maybe it could be locking letters. But no, finally I realized it was just a netscape jam.

I went offline, then used ZTREE a download on line file manager like explorer but much better. Id use it to go down into DOS, I went into the PROGRAM FILES\NETSCAPE\USERNAME\ see the fat.db and try to erase the sucker. But guess what. THE fat.db file was likewise jammed. It wasn't in use but it wouldn't let go, wouldn't let itself be erased. Like a servant staying after her 8 hrs was up! I'm offline. IT SHOULD BE ERASABLE! I TRY TO CLOSE IT OUT. ATTRIBUTES were not the factor. ITS ATTRIBUTES ARE just A no H, no R! If you want on this ZTREE you hit A for attributes then - sign, minus and then the H or R and then you should be able to erase those attributes which lock them up. That wasn't it. I certainly should be able
to kick that thing out of the way or click it gone won't work.

But FINALLY I FOUND the one way. Here's what I had to do to read my emails! You hit START BUTTON and CLOSE DOWN THE MACHINE. TOTALLY reboot and restart, ONLY NOW  after that was netscape NOT JAMMED. i must reboot and then GO ONLINE Web Wisdom came from my tekkie pal the farmer in Idaho. Riding to the rescue like Errol Flynn.

ANSWER: When unable to DELETE for no apparent reason it is USUALLY because the file in question is CURRENTLY IN USE. Solution is to use a dos file manager to delete or restart PC in the "SAFE MODE" and then delete. Works on MOST files. If still unable to delete, then you must go into DOS, remove attributes, and delete.

BUT HOW do you get locked up in the first place? I suspect JAVA codes in sites you visited just immediately before it jammed. The rule with Netscape is that you must not ever abort loading of a page that contains Javascript code. Unfortunately, java code is found on most web pages, since the majority are unnecessarily Java-ed to death. (I feel a rant coming on. Must resist!) This is especially true if you are using the Back button. You can often get away with aborting a Java-ed page when you first go to it, but if you are coming back to it with the Back button, (a) it takes about 5 times as long to re-load the page as it took to load initially, and (b) if you abort it, Netscape will crash.

Not only will it freeze up, but closing it and restarting will not help. Rebooting usually does help. Solutions: turn off Javascript, or use another browser.

How? Well you've gotr a button in NETSCAPE. Edit / pick Preferences / then hit Advanced Uncheck "Enable Java" and "Enable Javascript"

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SECOND possibility:

Netscape was bought by AOL and they have turned it into CRAP. Therefore, I have been using MOZILLA, which is Netscape 4.7 without the BS. and trimmed off "BLOAT". Most things are identical to Netscape 4.7, but a few things are more 'basic', like BOOKMARKS. I have learned to live with
it as it is perfectly trouble free, which I like. Netscape before the Bloat.

Simply download MOZILLA and then you can delete Netscape. All your
Netscape stuff should be now in Mozilla. I am sending you a CD with
everything you will ever need on it, including Netscape 4.7 and Mozilla.
Also has Ad-aware to detect spyware and remove it. Was going to send
last Friday but you were able to fix problems so I did not make a
special trip to town to mail it, but now that you are still having
problems I will try to mail it off today. Maybe you will get it by Wed.
or Thursday. or Friday. Look for a small red & white stinky
bubble-package containing 2 CDs.

Keep this CD in a special place (under your pillow) so you have it in
the future. All the programs on it are OK, tested, bugfree, and
recommended. I use this CD to restore effed-up PCs, along with the
Win98se CD. I have a third CD with MS Internet Explorer on it. I did not
send this one, but you may need it since Windows 98se uses files from
Internet Explorer. Since you use Netscape I am hoping that your problem
lies there instead of with IExplorer.

Both of your PCs are antiques, sorry to say. They MAY be too slow and lack sufficient RAM to cope with a CD Burner. I would suggest that before you spend any amount of $$$ to refurbish the old machines that you consider that for $250 to $350 you can get a brand NEW FAST up to date PC from Ebay and other sources. Even XP machines (2 GIGAHERTZ Plus) if you want to live dangerously. These PCs are about 10 times as fast as the PCs that were made prior to 1998. For $500 or so you can get brand new PCs that are 20 times as fast, that is- 2 to 3 GIGAHERTZ speed DEMONS. These retail for around a Grand from Downtown sellers, but on Ebay you can find deep discounts on the same thing, speedwise.

This is just an example of Ebay bargains. Compare Downtown. I can't fix
some PCs because it is cheaper to simply REPLACE the old dinosaurs with
NewTeck machines. I can't even build one from parts as cheap as I can
buy a Brand New one! If you want to pursue this and need help, let me
know what you need, maybe we can make arrangements and get it done ASAP.

TALK to me! Another gal in Dubuque with same problem you are having got fed up last night and FORMATTED her Hard Drive, wiped it slick and reinstalled Windows with a 'recovery CD' from Compaq. She went the WRONG WAY because now she has a blank PC and is lost. Also she lost EVERYTHING in all folders because she had NO backups. There is a better way, but she was impatient and frustrated. Want to know how to do it and loose NOTHING? See attached directions...........Then do it yourself, its simpler than sending an email. Save your $$$ for buying a new PC.

DO NOT give some Joker a day's pay to do a 15 minute job that takes 2 minutes to set up and start. A 5 year old can do this. Its foolproof!

I answered him sagely. NAHHHH. I'm not ending up like the gal in Dubuqe. I'll just boot and reboot. Not a problem. I like my old dinosaur pcs just fine! The first one had a warm hum coming out of the fan. (When it doesn't sound like a coffee grinder,). The second, bought used lasted five years. maybe it was 300$ with monitor, power supply/ surge protector, ergonomic keyboard. Third I just bought in 2008, 200$ complete. I always want to see how just how long these used machines last. I back up files on floppies, have two PC's and five websites online as a backup system. Keep the floppies or emails carrying files from one to the other. I'm fine. I have a wealthy client who keeps telling me, I'll buy you a new PC, whaddya want? I tell her, nah, don't worry. i'm fine. And I mean it. I use dial up, not cable. I have time to think while things load.  And at my age, THINKING takes time!