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-----Forwarded Message----- From: standup4democracy
Sent: Apr 27, 2005 4:17 PM
To:
vietnamveteransonthenet@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Vietnam Veterans On the Net] JANE FONDA FOR NATIONAL HERO
Most
of the following is from the Winter Soldier website:
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=Timeline
"November 22, 1970 -- During a fund-raising tour for GI deserters,
Vietnam Veterans Against the War and the Black
Panthers, Jane Fonda
is quoted in the Detroit Free Press as telling a University of
Michigan audience, "I would think
that if you understood what
communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we
would someday become
communist," and "The peace proposal of the Viet
Cong is the only honorable, just, possible way to achieve peace in
Vietnam.""
"February
16, 1971 -- Jane Fonda and Donald Sutherland form "FTA"
(F*** The Army), an anti-war, anti-American road show that tours
near
Army bases in order to undermine troop morale. Skits and songs
portray American defeats, soldiers refusing to fight,
and the murder
of officers by their troops. FTA cast members mingle with soldiers
after the shows, encouraging them
to desert or to sabotage the Army."
"March 14 - 18, 1971 -- Jane Fonda, Mark Lane, and VVAW
representative Michael
Hunter fly to Europe for a five-day tour. In
Paris, Fonda meets privately with Madame Binh of the PRG, then the
three
activists fly to London, where Fonda alleges American
atrocities that include "applying electrodes to prisoners' genitals,
mass
rapes, slicing off of body parts, scalping, skinning alive, and
leaving 'heat tablets' around which burned the insides
of children
who ate them.'""
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NEW! Photo of Jane meeting with Maddam
Binh!
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http://vikingphoenix.com/public/CelebrityFiles/TurnerandFonda/JaneFonda/jfonda-binh.htm If the long original url above breaks apart, use
this "tinyurl" link to reach the Viking Phoenix
site and the new
Fonda w/Binh photo:
http://tinyurl.com/cgpsf )
July 8 - 22, 1972 -- Jane Fonda visits Hanoi, where she makes
numerous radio broadcasts to American and South
Vietnamese military
personnel encouraging mutiny and desertion, while repeatedly claiming
that the United States is
committing war crimes in Vietnam. Fonda
also visits American prisoners, reporting on the air that they are
being "well
cared for" and that they wished to convey their "sense of
disgust of the war and their shame for what they have been asked
to
do." Upon leaving North Vietnam, Fonda accepts from her hosts a ring
made from the wreckage of a downed American
plane.
April, 1973 -- Jane Fonda calls the freed American
prisoners "hypocrites and pawns," insisting that, "Tortured
men do
not march smartly off planes, salute the flag, and kiss their wives.
They are liars. I also want to say that
these men are not heroes."
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=Timeline
(use this "tinyurl" link, if the long original one above breaks apart
and becomes inactive)
http://tinyurl.com/3mcap
July 29 - August 12, 1972 -- Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey
Clark travels to Hanoi on behalf of the communist
Stockholm
International Commission for Inquiry. Clark denounces the U.S.
bombing of North Vietnam and visits American
POWs, reporting that
they are in good health and their conditions "could not be better."
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/index.php?topic=Timeline
So, what's Ramsey Clark up to these days? Well, he runs the "peace"
coalition International Action Center, a front
group for the
communist Workers World Party, who OPENLY support(ed) the massacre at
Tianamen Square, the Mao revolution,
North Korean dictator, Kim
Jong-Il and his father who previously ruled, and many other such
things.
Some other
WWP front groups are Troops Out Now(the latest WWP front),
International ANSWER, and Peoples Video Network.
This next
piece comes from the Leftist news org, indymedia, who
apparently feel Ramsey's IAC is too extreme even for them!
http://la.indymedia.org/print.php?id=19990
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Workers World Party statement from their own website
[QUOTE]"Specifically,
are some of the leaders in ANSWER members of the
Workers World Party? Sure. The question is, "So what?" As any student
of
the powerful--and successful--movement against the U.S. war in
Vietnam knows, members of the Socialist Workers Party and
the
Communist Party, U.S.A., were among the leadership of the two major
anti-war coalitions during that war."
http://www.workers.org/ww/2002/answer1128.php
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Charlie "Workers World Party" Rangel continues pushing for Hillary
08'
presidential bid (you really should check this out, as it directly
links prominent New York democrat congressman, Charlie
Rangel, a
longtime admirer of Fidel Castro, to the Workers World Party.
http://tinyurl.com/6s5jt
LC
--- In vietnamveteransonthenet@yahoogroups.com, merlecrabb
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
A
recent article, that has appeared in several U.S. newspapers,
reintroduces us to Nguyen Thanh Trung, 58,who used to be
a pilot in
the South Vietnamese air force. In 1975, then VNAF Lieutenant
Nguyen Thanh Trung was in fact a North
Vietnamese Communist mole.
On April 8, 1975, on orders from the North Vietnamese Communists, he
bombed the presidential
palace in Saigon, now renamed Ho Chi Minh
City. For the North Vietnamese government and their supporters this
was
a momentous event prior to the arrival of communist forces on
April 30, marking the end of the war in the South.
For his actions,
Trung was proclaimed a National Hero by the North Vietnamese
installed government.
Today,
he is vice president of Vietnam Airlines, the national
carrier. Trained to fly Boeing 777s, he hopes to pilot the maiden
commercial flight from Ho Chi Minh City to San Francisco later this
year.
If Trung gets his wish, it is only
fitting that Jane Fonda should be
given the opportunity to be at the gate to greet this communist
Vietnam "National
Hero". In fact, it would even be more fitting, if
Jane Fonda could get designated a communist Vietnam "National
Hero"
in time for their meeting
Jane Fonda's actions during the Vietnamese conflict speak for
themselves and
show her devotion to the cause of North Vietnam was
well above and beyond antiwar protest. Jane Fonda truly
merits
being designated a communist Vietnam "National Hero", and is equally
as deserving as former Lieutenant Trung—her
long list of
accomplishments on behalf of North Vietnam during the war were
probably even more important to North
Vietnamese cause than Trung's
single act.
It is time we ensure Jane Fonda is appropriately recognized for her
efforts
on behalf of the North Vietnamese government and North
Vietnamese troops in time of war with the United States. Send your
letters of support for Jane Fonda Communist National Hero to the
Embassy of Vietnam,
1233 20th St N. W., Washington, D.C., 20036
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WHAT
DID JANE FONDA REALLY DO (In Short)
JANE FONDA
AND JOHN KERRY WORKING FOR AMERICA'S ENEMY TOGETHER
A MESSAGE
FROM JANE FONDA ABOUT HER VIETNAM TRIP
I might be pissing in the wind, but I have to do something...
Please press the link:
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A "PRO SE" PTSD VIETNAM
VET WINS A LEGAL MALPRACTICE CASE AGAINST A VICE-CHAIRMAN OF
ATTORNEY ETHICS.
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A PIECE OF FORGOTTEN
AMERICAN HISTORY
THE BATTLE OF MINISINK..
HOSPITAL ROCK
Please press the link
to learn the details.
Please press a subject below to visit its webpage.
NEWSWEEK SCORES A
BIG ONE FOR THE TERRORISTS
"There is... a deep anti-military bias in the
media. One that begins from the premise that the military must be lying, and that American projection of power around
the world must be wrong. I think that that is a hangover from Vietnam, and I think it's very dangerous."
--
Terry Moran, Chief ABC White House Correspondent, http://www.hughhewitt.com/
PLEASE PRESS THE BELOW LINK
TO VISIT OUR NEWSWEEK POLL AND ADD YOUR COMMENTS.
"In 1982, the public perception of a Vietnam
vet was Sylvester Stallone's film character RAMBO, a mentally disturbed and thoroughly fictionalized ex-soldier."
VETS WHO MADE A
DIFFERENCE
AGENT ORANGE IMPORTANT
INFORMATION
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ALL VIETNAM VETERANS ARE ELIGIBLE
FOR AGENT ORANGE EXAMS.
PLEASE PASS THIS IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO
ALL VIETNAM VETERANS, WHO YOU KNOW. | |
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COMBINED ACTION PROGRAM (CAP)
PLEASE PRESS THE BELOW
LIFE MAGAZINE COVER TO LEARN ABOUT THE VIETNAM UNIT THAT HAD
THE NICKNAME "THE PEACE CORPS VOLUNTEERS WITH
RIFLES."
| PLEASE
PRESS THE BELOW ARTICLE TO READ |
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PRESS THE ABOVE ARTICLE TO READ |
SURRENDER WAS
NEVER AN OPTION
The Vietnam War Experiences of a Proud
Vietnam Vet.
PLEASE PRESS HERE TO
LEARN A LIST OF AMERICAN CELEBRITIES, WHO REALLY DO CARE ABOUT
AMERICA'S VETERANS AND CURRENT MILITARY
PLEASE PRESS THE LINK
TO LEARN ABOUT THE DUC DUC RESETTLEMENT VILLAGE MASSACRE
A
MUST READ BY ALL PATRIOTIC AMERICANS
The poem listed on the below website is the
"Dear Vietnam Veteran" Letter.
International War Veterans' Poetry Archives
JACK CUNNINGHAM
United States Marine Corps
Phu Da, Vietnam
1970 - 1971
THIS IS HAPPENING ACROSS
AMERICA
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO BELIEVE
THAT JANE FONDA IS A NATIONAL HERO, AND FOR THOSE OF YOU
WHO DON'T BELIEVE SHE IS, PLEASE PRESS THE BELOW LINK:
----- Original Message -----
Check out the Viet-Myths website. We're another group
working on trying to get the truth out on the Vietnam War.
Regards,
Mike Benge,
Former VN POW '68-73
Examining the Myths of the Vietnam War
A Conference,
under the auspices of The RADIX Foundation,
which
took place at Simmons College,
300 The Fenway, Boston MA, 26-29 July 2004
"The Vietnam War was mis-reported by the Media, mis-recorded by the Historians, mis-taught in
our schools and mis-applied in addressing policy decisions.
MMMM should replace UUUU as our recognition symbol."
Stephen Sherman
http://www.viet-myths.net/OSession01.htm
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In the long run, understanding communications is all up to personal interpretation. Everyone
has different emotional filters based on their life experiences.
TERRI SCHINDLER: REMEMBER THE KAREN ANN
QUINLAN STORY IN 1975
Learn what Karen Ann
Quinlan's parents did in her name. Maybe, something similar could happen in Terri Schindler's name. (Or
you can donate in Terri Schindler's name directly to the Karen Ann Quinlan Hospice.)
DEDICATED
TO THE VICTIMS
OF 9-11
(Both Living and Dead)
THE MESSAGE OF 9-11
THE BELOW ARTICLES COME FROM THE BOOK
DIRTY LITTLE SECRETS OF
THE VIETNAM WAR
----- Original Message -----
Well, Folks:
Jane Fonda has done a mea culpa for sitting on an NVA Triple A gun. A gun responsible
for downing many a US Airman over North Vietnam during that year of 1972.
Now Jane is "So sorry," but why? BECAUSE JANE FONDA IS SELLING A BOOK. And Leslie
Stahl and the rest of the 60 Minutes (CBS) turncoats are helping her facilitate the whole snow job.
I thought this was the "Flower Generation." These were the rabid anti-capitalists, who
have now sold out like the rest of their ilk for the almighty buck.
Well Jane, on behalf of all Vietnam Veterans (living and dead) TAKE YOUR MANUSCRIPT, PUT
A NICE BORDER ON IT, PUT IT ON A ROLL AND PUT IT WHERE IT BELONGS: NEXT TO THE
CRAPPER!
Tom Spanne 2/9/3 Company Corpsman
U.S. Marines 9th MAB
Years ago, Jane Fonda stood up for her beliefs in the name and honor of communism.
Now, Jane Fonda is pushing her capitalistic beliefs. She wants to make money with her new book
and new movie.
Things change...
Years ago, DISNEY
made it big on good, moral, honorable, American family stories. It's when DISNEY changed their format that the Corporation
started having problems.
Wal-Mart made
it big; because they advertised everything sold in the store was American-Made.
Boy,
how things change!!
Jack http://www.CapVeterans.com
It wasn't Jane's fault. It
was because her former husbands made her do it.
(SHE MUST BE TRYING
TO MAKE A COMEBACK.
SHE THINKS AMERICANS ARE STUPID...)
WHAT HAPPENED IN VIETNAM ON MARCH
29, 1971 THIRTY-FOUR YEARS AGO
PLEASE PRESS THE DOCTOR
DONOHUE ARTICLE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT POST TRAUMATIC STRESS
DISORDER (PTSD).
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Help Democracy grow in Iraq. Be part of the solution...
"A true friend is someone who thinks you are a good egg
even though he knows
you are slightly cracked."
Adopt An American Veteran
It's time that American Democrat Leaders got behind a solution and pushed it
forward, instead of their DOOM and GLOOM forecasts. John Kerry is still the Democrats top forecaster. Does any
Democrats think the Iraq Election was a major step forward... Or are all Democrat politicians afraid of John Kerry,
Ted Kennedy and their soon to be elected leader, Howard Dean?
There must to be some Democrat Politicians, who are NOT afraid of
their Far-Left Leadership...?
Jack
Rice: Iraqi Voting Exceeds Expectations
By ANNE GEARAN, AP Diplomatic Writer
WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) said the Iraqi elections went "better than expected" Sunday, despite incomplete reports about the extent of voter turnout
in areas plagued by intimidation and violence.
She also called insurgents "terrible thugs" who will not succeed in stopping voting and the progress of democracy
in Iraq (news - web sites).
"Every indication is that the election in Iraq is going better than expected," Rice said on ABC's "This Week."
But Sen. John Kerry (news -
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