WOODSIDE 36

EX WOODSIDE FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT

The story of one 1936 Ford American-LaFrance Fire Engine





    This is what happens when one enjoys both trains, and old fire engines.

    The Fire Engine is my 1936 Ford American-LaFrance Fire Engine (Pumper). The Train is the SP 2472 in Redwood City, July 4th, 1995.

    I have owned the fire engine since 1989. It was acquired from the Woodside, Calif. FireFighters Association. In it's last years it was used as a muster rig and a public relation events tool.

    I was serving as a Volunteer Firefighter with The Woodside Fire Protection District when I discovered this fire engine. As a Fire Fighter with San Mateo County, (C.D.F.) Fire Department, Company 218, it continued to be used in public relation events. I am no longer involved as a Fire Fighter, (injury ended my career) but I still own and use this fire engine in car shows, burn foundation events, and any other fun things to do with an antique fire engine.



 

My first project

    Above is the first Fire Engine that I owned. It was a 1953 Seagrave fire engine (Pumper). This unit came from the Daly City Fire Department.  I only have time & space for one fire engine. The 1936 Ford is the one that I now own, and will keep until I am too old to drive. That is the SP 4449 in the background. Photo taken in San Francisco 1983. What a better way to wash an old train than with an old fire engine. The SP 4449 was on the way to the Worlds Fair. 

     This 1953 Seagrave Fire Engine was made with the same basic appearance from 1951 to 1970, (only one made in 1970). This series of Seagrave Fire Engine was called the "70th Anniversary Model".  This fire engine was the first fire engine purchased by the Daly City Fire Department, as a paid full time Fire Department. This engine was originally powered by a V 12 motor, with a 1000 G.P.M. pump. About 1970 Daly City repowered it with a Ford 534 V 8 motor, and the brakes were converted to an air brake system. This upgrade improved the ability of this fire engine to climb the hills of Daly City, and to stop ... when coming down these same hills.

      I have been told, that with these improvements, this fire engine was considered one of the fastest hill climbing fire engines in The San Francisco Bay Area. As someone who has driven more modern in-serivce county fire engines, I think this old Seagrave could still beat some  in-serivce fire engines today.

      These improvements made this fire engine a better fire engine, but for a collector, difficult to restore to original.  One of many reasons I made the difficult decision to let it go.


Why own a fire engine?

    For me it is about owning a very interesting piece of real history. When I am working on the '36 Ford Fire Engine it is interesting to look at what was considered 'state of the art' in motor vehicles in 1936. From the 6 volt positive ground electrical system to the mechanical brakes it served its' purpose well.
    If only it could talk, and w e l l .......  it kind of  does.

    When showing the vehicle there is almost always someone who once drove one just like it, and they start telling their interesting stories of driving a 1936 Ford Truck, or an old fire engine of the same vintage.

    This neat page of history sits in my garage waiting to show more people a small part of 1936 automotive history, (and yes you would think my insurance company would give me free fire insurance with a fire engine in my garage).
   
STUFF

 

   My dad with the SP 4449 and the SP 2472, Sacramento, Calif. Rail fair 1991, I did say I like trains.



    Fire fighter's burn relay to San Francisco 1998. A very enjoyable code 3 run on the El Camino Real for the Alisa Ann Ruch California Burn Foundation, (of which I' am a former director (1987 to 1990, Bay Area Chapter).

The 2002 Burn relay raised a record $150,000...... How far can it go?


After many years of service this fire engine was tired. The paint was faded, engine compression low, and everything else just in need of repair.


Will it ever run again?  ..............  You bet'

 
The Overhaul
  
      FOR THE TECH. TYPES: The motor is a Ford 59A Flathead V8. It is now rated at about 110 Hp, old Hp about 100 Hp. Cylinders  rebored 040 oversized. Crankshaft .010 undersized. regrind camshaft to stock. Adjustable lifters added. Install stainless steel valves, and guides, in order to burn the unleaded fuel.

    It has a two barrel Stromberg 97 carburetor.

    The water tank has been sand blasted and resealed. The pumps have been rebuilt with new bearings, and seals installed. The vehicle has been rewired. The rear end and the two speed unit rebuilt. 

    And to finish it off it was repainted a darker wine like red. Many fire engines were painted this darker red before World War II. The paint was matched from a restored 1920's American La-France. I found paint on the frame that confirmed that at one time this fire engine was once a darker red.

    New Gold Leaf was also done. It is real Gold Leaf, not decals. It was done the old fashion way.

    At this point I call it 90% restored.



General Stuff


    This Fire engine has two Pumps for fighting fires. One pump is a power take off pump rated at 200 GPM. This pump can operate and the fire engine driven at the same time which is good for moving grass fires.  The second pump is used with a transfer case. The fire engine must remain stationary with this pump running, and it is rated at 500 GPM, for use on building fires. Both pumps are rotary gear pumps. Both pumps are made by American-LaFrance Co.

    The built up in the back of this fire engine is all built by American-LaFrance Co. What is interesting is all the running boards, and rear fenders are still correct commercial Ford Truck units. Often in fire engine built ups, this stuff did not remain. There is also a tank in back that carries about 200 gallons of water.

    The rear end is a two speed Timken.

    This fire engine was very popular for cash strapped depression era towns and cities. It was considered a good alternative to the much more costly custom units.

    The AMERICAN-LAFRANCE  production number for this unit is F1114. Only 20 AMERICAN-LAFRANCE fire engines were made in 1936. That I know of there is only one other running 1936 FORD, AMERICAN-LAFRANCE fire engine left in the U S. 


           
The present

36fordfireengine  

36fordfireengine         Hose cart 1900

    This is what "Woodside 36" looks like today.

    It is the best of two worlds. It is a classic 1936 American-LaFrance fire engine, and a classic 1936 Ford Truck.

    No fire engine collection should be complete without an old antique hose cart. The hose cart saw service at the Santa-Fe Railroad,  Round House, Richmond California. I acquired this hose cart the summer of 2003. The hose cart is about 100 years old.

                                                                                          

BY :

alsfire@earthlink.net

Redwood City, Ca. 94062
Started: 04/09/00 

Updated: March 2005



A cool fire related web site:

San Mateo County Fire Radio Dispatch

Want to know more about collecting fire fighting history check this web site:

National SPAAMFAA


Supply/Source list:

Early Ford parts: All Ford Parts, Campbell, Ca.  Phone: 408 378-1935,   408 378-1934,   800 532-1932. 
Paint: Budget Paint, they paint inserivce, and classic fire engines, trucks, etc. Oakland Calif. 510 638-1381, they go the mile for fire stuff. They have painted fire trucks/engines for Oakland, San Jose, and Milpitas Fire Departments.
Gold Leaf: Mr. Scot Cambell, Redwood City, Ca. 650 365-8949. He Gold leafs inserivce, and classic fire stuff. Also Hot Rods etc.
Heavy Motor/Pump work: Mr. K Petersen, San Bruno Ca. , 650 996-5991, or 650 583-9673 He loves the old stuff.
New Tires: Coker Tire's: 800 251-6336
Rebuilt Carburetors, Starters, Generators, etc.: Bill's Auto Electric, he rebuilds your stuff, Belmont, Ca. 650 594-0245




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