Perhaps the most involved of our backstory threads, the conversation between John and Rosalind on station LG-3 was really quite fascinating to watch evolve.

What would I have liked to do better as a GM in this section? God, I probably should have been, you know... involved in it somewhere. I've got one line, setting the scene. I thought the phrase "data ecology" was a pretty good one, though. I expect I subconsciously stole that from Neal Stephenson or Steven Baxter or someone.

Rosalind: The scene is Relay Station. The nearly completed wooden hull of the Kolvir has been towed from the shipbuilder's -- where you've been overseeing it's construction -- to Relay in order for you to install all of the high-tech portions of it. None of the ship's finishing touches have been created yet as it still needs to be wired up and made airtight before carpets and fine wood paneling and other elements of the decor can be installed.

It's early in the third shift on the sunless, 'round the clock station -- just about middle of the night on a normal shadow -- and you're heading back to the ship on some errand. Maybe you can't sleep, maybe you forgot something on board, maybe you just like to drop in at all hours, or maybe you're a "night owl" (though there isn't really a night on Relay) and like to work during the third shift.

On your way you cross through the observation lounge overlooking the vast docking bay where the Kolvir is in "drydock." The lounge here is mostly deserted, there are a few people passing through but nothing like the crowds that gather to gawk at the sleek intersteller yachts or warships.

However there is one person here that you think you recognize, a woman....

She's tall and slender, one might almost say skinny. She has long legs and long, slender fingers in which she cradles her chin as she leans on the railing and looks down through the angled windows. Her dark hair is cut short but still somewhat unruly. The planes of her face seem somewhat sharp, almost sculpted, and her eyes are a piercing green. She's wearing tight, dark red, leather pants, a black turtleneck of some soft, cashmere-like material, and high-heeled black boots. It's pretty normal casual evening wear on Relay.

It might take you a minute to place her because you've only met Roz once or twice before. When Roz first came to the Progress she was given a formal audience and you probably saw her then. And you probably saw her again at the formal ball after she had walked the pattern. But after that you were no doubt absorbed in building the Kolvir while Roz left the Progress and has been gone for years. This is the first you've seen, or even heard of her. You probably had no idea she was on Relay.

She hasn't seen you so, if you're the paranoid type, you could avoid her now and check into why she's here and what she's doing. Or you could simply walk up and talk to her.

John:  Tony, you've never really actually described Relay Station at all.. even so far as to say if it's a space station or a naval base.. All I know is that it's modern, and it can accommodate a vessel the size of the Kolvir. Can I get a few hints?
GM: Relay is a small planetoid, circling what John knows to be an artificial sun. The planet itself is oceanic, idyllic, dotted with beautiful little islands, spectacularly well-equipped residences, and of course space elevators.

From an engineering perspective, though, the planet is just a necessity, a gravity well to hang satellites around. One of these satellites (a custom A-Grav works) has been refitted to work on the Kolvir, a project substantially larger than Relay's normal fare of information and light ultra-tech manufacturing.

Now I'm under the impression that it's this satellite, rather than the planet of Relay itself, where this scene is currently taking place. On an observation deck.

So, relevant features... it's a deck, not an enclosed space. The black void of vacuum just hangs out there, littered with stars. Air is held in a bubble over the area by a network of micro-pressors, the type of detail that only John worries about. The floor is metal, the railings likewise, and somewhat cold.

What with all the foreign travel, the local data ecology has been somewhat disturbed. A small school of lively infoglyphs darts around the deck, occasionally pushing a candidate forward to try to solicit John or Roz's attention for multi-galactic pyramid schemes, the newest recording of Jovian tone-poems or virtual constructs guaranteed better than reality.

It's a somewhat public space, but late at "night". There aren't any pressing crowds, but every few minutes a person or pair of people wander through on their way to somewhere else.

Okay, I think I'm tapped on generalities. Do you have any specific questions, or does this give you the feel?

John is dressed in jeans with a black military style sweater (no insignia) and work-boots. His short, almost spiky, blondish brown hair makes them almost a match. Except his eyes are a rare bright blue.

He'll sidle up to the railing next to her, making no effort to be stealthy (and thus maybe actually get close for that reason). He cradles a steaming cup of coffee in his hands.

You do manage to walk right up to her, she's woolgathering apparently.
Smiling, he murmurs, "Good evening Rosalind. I'm surprised to see you. Pleasantly surprised." He'll raise the mug slightly. "Getcha some?" he offers.
Roz turns to you. At first she doesn't recognize you... then she clearly finds you familiar but can't place you... then a smile spreads over her face when she finally figures out where she knows you from. "John? Right?" Roz is clearly pleased to see you. "Random's... yeah! Hey, coz! How are you?" She pushes some unruly hair out of her eyes. "What brings you to Relay?"
"Yeah..." John grins. "Random's kid."
Roz grins back.
He'll nod out towards the window by the railing. "Is Relay some home away from home for you?"
"In a way, I suppose. I'm here doing some doctoral studies at the university." Roz turns her back to the windows and leans back against the railing. "I'll be done soon and then I'll be heading back to Amber -- or the Progress."
He raises his eyebrows. "Great.. I've always been a fan of secondary education." He chuckles, rolls his eyes seemingly of the absurdity of that remark. "It's just that I'm at some university or another almost perpetually. Mostly hard sciences.. a little alchemy when I can find someone that isn't a fake. Is it in medicine- your studies.. or..?"
"Philosophy and psychology," Roz says. "I studied law and political science on Ys but Relay's the place for philosophy."
He nods with a smile. "I did a lot of undergraduate work in Y's, but I found the lack of privacy I was getting was disquieting. I wasn't initially discreet with my research, and once anything or anyone related to marketing gets you in their scopes..." he rolls his eyes, "...look out."

He'll wait for her reply, and then nod. "Sure.. I'll take you to where they have the Kolvir mounted for the tech teams to work on her. We're running all three shifts, and I'm just spot checking the evening crew." He takes a drink of his coffee. "Now you're sure I can't get you something to drink? It's not like we get together all that often.."

"Nothing just yet," Roz replies, "maybe later, though." She smiles.
He gestures behind him. "I'm overseeing the completion of this new flagship for the Progress. The HMS Kolvir."

He shifts slightly to lean against the rail. "It's a monster of a ship- and it needs to be outfitted with a lot of modern amenities and hardware. You know, detailed work that just can't be done in Amber. It's intended to be used as living quarters across multiple shadows, and folks wanted to be able to capitalize upon the local environment whenever possible."

"It's beautiful, John," Roz says, "simply beautiful." She shakes her head, "I'm impressed... really." She seems quite sincere.
"It's quite the ambitious project. I could take you on a little tour if you'd like..?"
"I'd love it!" She jumps at the chance. "When?"
He'll escort her to the Kolvir work site, and give her a proper tour, though the ship is not in it's glory yet...

He'll walk her through the partially finished ship. It's a large vessel (but not a floating city).

"It's going to be quite opulent when it's completed," he points out where the plush furnishing and appointments will be stationed. "And capable of proving any amenities available in any given Shadow on the Progress route."

Outlining some of it's more unusual characteristics. "She will be able to fly, as well as remain moving without being dependent upon sail or the whim of the wind."

He shrugs casually, "It will be outfitted with some unusual defenses, but I'm not at liberty to release that information at this time. I hope you understand."

"Of course," Roz reaches out and touches your shoulder to show there's no hard feelings. "I understand completely. I'm relieved to see you're being discreet about it, John," she smiles. "I truly am."
"Thanks," he says quietly. He places a hand on hers and gives it a gentle squeeze before releasing it. "I appreciate that."

He brightens. "Mom would never forgive me if I let anything happen to him." His mother being Vialle..

Roz nods.
"That and she will be accompanied by an escort fleet. The Kolvir won't be the sole means of moving Dad around, but she'll definitely be the primary ship of the line for the Progress."

He shakes his head with a good natured but rueful expression. "Of course I had to argue with him for months just to approve this much of an upgrade to the Progress."

"I hope my letters helped," Roz says with a smile. By this time the tour has led back out onto the stern castle and Roz and John are leaning on the taffrail looking out over the entire vessel. "I've been keeping up a correspondence with the King while I've been away at college and we've been discussing the Progress, his goals, motivations, and aspirations for it. For my part I've been making a determined case for raising the level of security and the aura of prestige surrounding the whole affair."
"He's mentioned that he's gotten some letters from you," John replies. He takes a breath. "They probably did help. Of course any reasonable point of view, as opposed to Martin's, probably goes a long way."

He pauses to tilt his head to the right shoulder till his neck gives a quiet little 'crack', and then straightens it.

"This is my take on why he's so resistant to making it any larger or grander in scope. It's partially because he's trying to foster a sense of over confidence in them. Demonstrating that he doesn't believe that they'll ever attack him- by not bringing a larger fleet. Secondly, he believes that also fosters trust. That he has faith in the treaties and agreements that they've made with Amber. The more respect a man is paid, they become more respectable every day. And lastly, there is intimidation. If he's not fearful- then maybe there's a reason why."

Roz looks at John from under her bangs with a serious expression. "Remind me sometime to tell you about a fellow named Robespierre. You may find it an illuminating lesson in the uses, and weaknesses, of both trust and intimidation."

Then her grin is back. "But that's for another day and a *much* more serious conversation."

"But that's just what I've gotten out of him. In some respects he's more complex than I am." He has a little smile at the end of that.
Roz seems to appreciate the humor as well.

"There are also some important external geostrategic issues at heart here, that we can't afford to ignore," Roz continues, "as well as what I see are critical matters of internal social stability -- " Roz stops herself and looks down at the deck with an embarrassed grin, "I'm sorry, John, I don't want to bore you with a lot of poly sci geekspeak. Once I get on this subject I can talk all night."

"I'd just match you with strong and weak nuclear forces, and.." He grins as he pretends to fish through his pockets. "Can't quite do Fred McMurray- but I did actually invent flubber the other day.. Just to see if it could be done."

He grins. "Seriously! I don't really have it on me.. and not that horrible Robin Williams remake.. but polymer whose elasticity produces a greater potential energy in response to kinetic-"

You get a very blank look from Roz, as if she's trying to figure out what you're talking about and having absolutely no success.
"See..? I can go on all night too if I want.."
"Alright, you win that game," she laughs.

She looks up at you, meets your eyes, and smiles. "Suffice it to say what you've shown me here and what you've described are everything I could hope for -- well, maybe not everything," she grins, "if I was designing this ship I would have made it even bigger and grander," she throws her arms out in a gesture that encompasses... well, a lot! "But then, I'm not the poor fellow who has to build the damn thing!" She laughs.

His smile is a little more subdued. "I'm only needed to make it fly, and some other bells and whistles. It could easily be bigger and Amber doesn't need me for that. There's plenty of fine shipwrights with the materials and resources that could do that. You may not be the one building it Rosalind-- but I'm not the one paying for it, or authorizing it's construction within Amber's sphere of influence. I had to respect his wishes Rosalind."
"C'mon, Johnny, it was a joke," she says, giving you a playful pretend punch to the shoulder. "Lighten up -- and call me Roz. That's what my friends call me. I'll call you Johnny, because it feels more comfortable to me."

"You've done one hell of a job here," she says, sincerely, "I hope the King will be pleased."

If he did wear glasses, he peer down the top of the rims at her. "He's asked about you recently, if you didn't know. Maybe you should stop by some time when you have the chance and say hi...?"
"God-damnit!" Roz exclaims as she stumbles a little. She stoops over and picks up a small black object, looking at it in amazement. "My damn heel broke off, can you believe that?!" She brandishes the broken heel. "This is the problem with high-tech shadows, right here, John! Everything's made by machine, there's no sense of craftsmanship, no pride taken in the work!

No accountability when things go wrong or stop working, no personal responsibility...!

"On my home shadow we knew what craftmanship was! We made exquisitely crafted products of wood and leather that were in demand all over Xintai," Roz continues her tirade but pauses for a moment, "well, I didn't make them, but a lot of people did." As her tirade winds down she starts to look embarrassed again. "Oh, God, listen to me go on..." she puts a hand on her forehead in mock shame, "you must think I'm terrible."

"No..no," he assures here. "Despite appearances I know all about the downside of mass production."

He'll lean over and look at the broken heel. "I can probably get an epoxy and fix that for you, if you like..?"

"God, don't bother!" She snaps the heel off the other boot so at least she's not limping. "I have the worst luck with shoes." She shakes her head. "You don't know the half of it." She grins.
He flashes her a brief white smile. "But no, I don't think you're terrible. You're one of the sweetest members of the family."
"Thanks, John." Roz looks down at the deck for a moment, hiding her face under her hair.
"But I do think you're dodging the question Roz. Gonna stop by and see Dad sometime? He'd really like to see you."
"Now don't get all dramatic on me, Johnny," Roz says lightly, "somehow I doubt that your father is pining away for my company like my dear old granddad back in Xintai. Besides, we have an agreement, once I'm through with my studies here I'm going to be working for him full-time. We'll be seeing plenty of each other then -- and you too, I hope, if you're around. Or, if the King ever does feel the need for the company of one of his young nieces he can have a nice, heart-to-heart conversation with my oh-so warm and cuddly sister, Tempest." Roz laughs at that thought.

"Now c'mon, why don't you escort me home so that I can change out of these blasted boots and then we can go out to dinner and have a proper drink." Roz takes John's arm. "So what do you say, Johnny, you tell me about yours and I'll tell you about mine -- " Roz arches one eyebrow suggestively... "hopes and dreams, that is." Roz winks at you. "Hopes and dreams for the future...."

His brows raise as an easy smile comes to his face. He blushes ever so slightly, but he doesn't avert his eyes.

"Well- that's the thing about hopes and dreams, Roz. They're always expanding and growing, just as we grow as people."

He chuckles, "Well-" he says quickly, "how about we get you home and changed- and get that drink?"

He'll escort her back to her home (quarters/apartment?). He'll wait patiently as she takes an opportunity to get ready.

"Make yourself at home, I'm going to go change," Roz disappears into a back room.

'Make yourself at home' is easier said than done. Roz's apartment is not what one might call "homey." It's very neat, very orderly, and very sparsely furnished to point that it seems very... controlled.

In contrast to this is the art -- abstract paintings adorn the walls, obviously from widely different artists, and yet it all shares a sense of uncontrolled abandon, of wild, passionate emotion.

Standing in the center of the room it's almost as if one is surrounded by... well... temptation. While in the midst of the riot of colors all is monochromatic, minimalist frosted glass and stainless steel.

"I'm picking someplace with a diverse menu," he calls as she changes. "I'm partial to seafood, but you can't order anything bad at this place."

"Good!" Roz calls out from the next room, "I can never make up my mind what to order until the waiter puts the question to me."

"Okay, let's go," Roz comes out of the bedroom having changed out of the leather pants and turtleneck and into a deceptively simple black dress gathered around the waist with a belt of sliver links. The thin fabric and low-cut neckline of the dress makes it clear that she's not wearing a bra. Her high-heeled black pumps don't look much more comfortable than the boots she was wearing. A small silver clutch purse completes the ensemble.

Roz is putting on a pair of long, platinum earrings as she walks up to you.

When she emerges, he is standing concentrating on several glowing luminescent displays that float around him.. on nothing at all. He 'waves' through the different screens as if doing tai chi very quickly. The passage of his hands manipulate the ghostly GUI's.

He looks up with a smile staring at through the ghostly colors of the phantom displays. He looks for more than a moment through the ethereal computer displays. Not a gawk, and not a leer. Just a look of admiration that lasts for a heartbeat longer..

"I've just reserved a table for two at the Xanadu. Didn't even have to hack- I just happen to have made the acquaintance of the manager when Relay won the Kolvir contract. Right in the atrium of the stars.."

"How very smooth of you," Roz says with a mischievous grin.

With a shove in the air, he dispels the spectral screens.

Taking her by the arm, he walks her to the nearest turbo-walk.

Roz allows him to slip her arm under his. She tries not to be taller than he is.

"So what do you want to know, Roz? I'm not that complicated. I look like my dad, but take after my mother in many ways. I stay busy to keep myself out of trouble. I try my best to smooth things over between Rebma and Amber.. and I try to be happy."

As his retinas flash, the maitre'de rushes to greet them and to guide them to their table.

Roz waits until they're seated at their table. "So have you had much success with it, Johnny?" Roz asks once they're seated, "Being happy, I mean?"
He gives her a smile. It's a distant smile just the same, and it fades quickly. Almost as if he's realized it's not quite what he'd like to convey.

"To borrow a line from someone else- it's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got."

Roz nods, understandingly.
That bright white cheery grin returns as he raises an index finger to a speed bit of polymatter. "Could you have them send me a bloody mary, a little spicy, with olives- but easy on the ice?" He makes a rolling gesture with his hand, "And the lady will have?"
"Do they have Seven Pines bourbon from Barbary?" She asks. "It's pretty rare but it's one of my home shadow's biggest exports."

After drinks are ordered, he'll remark casually, "I do okay in the happiness business. Especially considering everyone around me. Except my parents.."

He sighs. "I took a good look around me when I was young. I decided that the best way to stay happy around Amber was to avoid boredom. Finding people and things that I enjoy and cultivating them- never allowing my self-worth to become hinged on what I accomplished in relation to anyone else."

He gives a mild shrug. "Of course I have a half-brother with at least forty years on me, still going through teen angst giving me an example of how not to be."

"He's in a tough spot, don't you think?" Roz comments.
"Oh definitely," he replies. "Without a doubt. But isn't the measure of character determined by how we come to terms with adversity?"
"Partly," Roz agrees, "but don't you think it's infinitely more difficult to deal with your adversity when you live your life in a fishbowl?" Roz wonders. "Every little thing he does is always under such close observation..." she shakes her head in sympathy. "That would put a cramp in anyone's style. Think of what your life would have been like if Martin hadn't been there to act as a kind of lightning rod of court gossip?"
"No." John shakes his head. "He makes choices. He chooses to remain in the fishbowl. He-"

He pauses. "You're of a different opinion clearly. I shouldn't have spoken out of turn when Martin isn't here to defend himself. I'll just drop it, okay?" He asks hopefully.

"You weren't speaking out of turn," Roz assures him, "I did ask for your opinion, after all. I'm sorry if I brought up a sensitive topic."

Roz puts her hand on John's for a moment to show that if John's not upset, neither is she. She smiles softly and then let's go of John's hand to pick up her drink again.

All is well, he also smiles and the conversation continues from here with no tension.

He uses the celery garnish to stir his drink. "Then again, perhaps Tempest is also merely misunderstood."

"She's misunderstood, all right," Roz grins, "mostly by herself. I think the person with the least clue about Tempest is Tempest."
"And now Roz," as he tips his recently arrived drink, "how about you?"
"Me?" Roz smiles softly, "I'm happy enough, Johnny. School has been stimulating but I'm ready to move on and get started with my duties. I'm looking forward to making a contribution -- or, at least, in some small way, I hope to be able to make a contribution."

"Can I ask you something, serious?" Roz asks, her demeanor becoming more subdued.

"Certainly," he replies. Intrigued.
"Lately relations between Rebma and Amber have been getting worse, don't you think?" Roz asks. "It's like there's a cold war freezing into place. Our two nations shouldn't be enemies but I cannot see any way to thaw things out. Can you see any hope for improving things?"
"Ah."

His demeanor has changed. It is cooler than before.

He looks right in the eyes for an instant, and then look away, out over the stars.

Roz's green eyes meet John's in an open, frank and unflinching gaze.

"Yes," he sighs.

"It's only my opinion however, the dynamics between the two nations. Changing that would be easier said than done. If it could be done."

"I'm not judging you, Johnny, or asking you to take a stand or make a choice between your father's homeland and your mother's homeland," Roz says quietly. "A good diplomat has to be able to see both sides of the argument. You have a unique experience, Johnny -- you know Amber, you know Rebma, and if anyone could see both sides of the problem it would be you. We don't have to talk about this now if you don't want to, but someday I would honestly be interested in hearing your opinion." She sips her bourbon.
He nods. "I didn't think you were judging me or suggesting one side or the other. You just caught me off guard, Rosalind," he says. "I forgot you were family for a moment."

"Not that I mean that as a put down, mind you," he adds quickly. "I'm just so accustomed to political or business discussions disguised as something else, that when it happens when I'm not expecting it- I just get a little disappointed. Like being ambushed by a pyramid-structured marketing sales scheme."

Roz is clearly dismayed.
He takes a good pull off his drink to catch some of the few pieces of ice. He crunches them on his back teeth. "Alright, what the hell- I'll play along for a little while." There is more of a canniness about him as he watches her. "Something you said wasn't quite right. My mother has become a full part of my father's world. No, Rebma is Moire's kingdom. There, in that relationship, lies the rub."
Roz sits back, confused. "What's wrong, Johnny? You seem suspicious of me but for the life of me I cannot imagine why. If you're uncomfortable talking about Rebma, then, by all means, let's change the subject."
He smiles, just a little, again.

"No, not you per se, Roz. You just have to realize that I get a lot of relatives who draw me into a seemingly relaxed conversations, and then with this reluctant air about them- suddenly lapse into politics. Almost like bait and switch."

"Except for Dad- he's pretty straight forward, but then I guess he feels he has that luxury."

He looks her back in the eyes once again. "Many people in our family, or it's attendant circle, claim not to have an interest in what they refer to as petty politics. I seldom believe that. I was brought up thinking there was always something more to everything being said. So, unless someone can truly say that they weren't raised in this or a similiar culture, I think we're all political animals at heart. I couldn't be anything less, as the son of the King."

"To get back to our earlier conversation, one way I keep my happiness is to seperate John from the Prince. Today I was just John, but a question about Rebma calls for the Prince."

He smiles faintly. "I guess I just didn't want to stand aside for his benefit, or share this evening with him. Make any sense?"

"I..." Roz hesitates, "I think so, Johnny." She sighs, clearly disappointed. "I guess I can't blame you for not trusting me; after all, we only just met," she looks him straight in the eye, "I wish there was something I could do to prove to you how much I love Amber, that I would do anything, make any sacrifice, to protect it.

"Our homeland has serious problems and dilemmas ahead of it John. As members of the up and coming generation of the royal family it's eventually going to fall to us to face those dilemmas, solve those problems. I fervently hope that you and I will be able to work together to come up with solutions to our various challenges. But before we can do that we first need to be able to share our thoughts and ideas, ruminate over causes and effects, discuss theories and conjectures; and I don't see that as talking petty politics -- I see it as an intellectual discussion on matters of the deepest significance to two very intelligent people who respect and admire each other for their abilities."

"But if tonight you'd rather keep the conversation to more light-hearted topics, I certainly have no problem with that," Roz picks up her drink.

"But, Johnny -- the next time I want to know if I can ask you something serious, if you really don't feel like having a serious conversation, it's perfectly okay to just say so." She smiles and finishes her bourbon. "Let's get another round." She suggests. "We can talk about Amber and Rebma and what's gone wrong between them some other day." She tries to smile but it seems a little forced, perhaps even a little sad.

"No," he says quietly, or perhaps gently but nevertheless firmly.

"For the good of the Kingdom," he sighs. "You asked a perfectly reasonable question. You're entitled to a fair answer... because I do believe you care for Amber."

"My theory isn't based upon a social or economic model, but I will tip my hat towards nationalism. Rebma is, if nothing else, just as much a monarchy as Amber. It's opinion is swayed by it's queen. Rulers and their people can be effected by pride, and I think that's an undercurrent here."

He clears his throat and becomes quite serious. He sits up in his chair.

Roz rests her chin in her hand as she listens closely.

"My father took advantage of an emotionally vulnerable young woman, who happened to be the Queen's only daughter. He used that vulnerability to have a sexual relationship, and get her pregnant. He then publically dumped her, shattered her self-esteem, which ultimately led to her suicide after the birth of my half-brother out of wedlock."

John taps the table with the end of his index finger. Hard. "Queen Moire realized she couldn't demand his life from my late Uncle Eric, so she demanded the next best thing. And that was being forced to marry someone who was a pariah, yet someone that the Rebman Court had a very real obligation to- and the person who fit that bill, was to the public, a cripple. This make sense? My father was never intended to be happy from this union. He was intended to be humiliated."

Roz nods that she understands.

He exhales the breath he was holding. "But it didn't quite work out that way." He finishes the last of his drink. "When I put this all in perspective, I do have some sympathy for Martin. He is pulled between his grandmother and our father."

"Me.. I make Rebma my business because.. My grandmother is responsible for my coming into the world, Rebma has no choice but to make me welcome, sincerity notwithstanding. The fact that I try to be a good person only seems to rub salt in the wound."

"But my theory Rosalind is.. that Queen Moire and the people of Rebma are not satisfied that my father has been punished enough. His best revenge upon them was living well, and it galls them. This irritation breeds a sort of nationalistic pride, which breaks down communication. Jams everything else up."

John leans back in his chair. "But what is anyone going to about it? Presume to punish him and his family further? He'd be the first to tell you he's not proud about what he did."

He adjusts in his seat. "You may not agree, but that's just what I see. The average person doesn't act upon these issues, but if the leadership does not communicate well, and pride is fostered.. well there you go."

He looks at her frankly. "Have I given you something to work with?"

"Very much so," Roz replies, "I feel that there's hope, that, despite how dismal it all looks now, I believe we can find a way to reconcile the two families."

Roz looks down at the table. "I also feel guilty -- first I brought up Martin, then I brought up Rebma, I feel like I'm stumbling across all of your old wounds," she looks up at John. "You've been open and straightforward with me, I feel I owe you no less. Do you have a question for me, something that you would like me to answer? I know that my past is nowhere near as complicated as yours is, but I promise to be as open and straightforward with you as you have been with me."

He gives an easy shrug as a more relaxed semeanor returns. "I appreciate the offer, but that's okay. You're not indebted or obligated to me in any way." He smiles. "We're not kids after all. No quid pro quo."

He waves towards another a flesh and blood waiter, to signal for another drink.

Roz gestures that she'll take another as well.

"And really- I'm not that complicated. And I didn't tell you anything that isn't more-or-less public knowledge. Though somneone else might not agree that Moire setting a negative tone towards Amber has such a sweeping effect. But me? Really, I'm just one guy stuck in the middle."

He sighs and touches her hand gently so that she'll look up at him again. "See? Not so bad after all?" He'll remove his hand from hers once she isn't staring at the table. "Sorry I came down on you so hard. Maybe you can see that I do get involved with the political arena, but that's not the whole of my life. Sometimes I seperate John from the Prince. But I don't see one as just for fun, and the other one serious. They're both important. Keeping them seperate is how I keep my wits."

Roz holds onto John's hand for a moment and smiles to demonstrate that there's no hard feelings before she lets go.
He places one elbow on the table, and rests his chin in his hand watching her with a thoughtful expression. His blue eyes watching intently. "Okay.. I see the scholarly Roz. Roz the volunteer. The idealist and the dreamer. A woman who wouldn't mind helping run the Big Machine. Someday, I even see Roz the advisor to the King. Tell me something about the secret Rosalind. The one the average person never gets to see. Don't make me guess- take me backstage to your life."
"I don't know if there is a secret Roz," Roz says with a grin, "I mean, I like scented bubble baths as much as the next girl but, other than that, I couldn't say that there's actually a part of me that you haven't seen yet." Roz laughs. "I spent my teenage and young adult years as crew on a Xintai freighter so I'm used to my job being my life and my life being my job -- that's what I'm comfortable with, that's how I live." Roz shrugs.
"Ah.. that is different," John concedes. "But it must work for you. My.. work.. is actually my hobby, or rather my creative outlet. Like my mother, I enjoy working with my hands. But early on I also discovered my father's joy of making noise, and go really fast." He grins briefly at that thought.

"But I think some others suffer so much from boredom, or even the fear of it."

"I suppose if there was something that I wouldn't tell anyone but a close friend it would be about my father," Roz smiles softly, "I would dearly like to meet him. I want to see for myself what he's like. Many of our aunts and uncles don't like him but I look at the kind of people they are and I don't see a whole lot there to recommend their points of view. The people I respect, like your father, seem to have liked Corwin a great deal and that's important to me. Every time I visit Amber someone like Bleys or Flora is quick to accuse Corwin of exaggerating, or even of outright lying, and I suppose they have to do that since Corwin didn't paint too glowing a picture of their personalities, but have they proved any more trustworthy? Is there any reason why I should take their word over that of my father's, or the King's?" Roz sighs expansively. "I would very much like to know the truth of the matter. Someday I'll take a working vacation and go searching for him."
John ponders as she talks. "Yeah, I could see myself being pretty sad if I had never met my parents."

He focuses back on her. "You know what my impression of him is.. and I've never met him, this is just an opinion formed on what I've heard, and from whom.. I think his detractors were in some respect afraid of him. Though not because he was a monster, any more than they were. I think he just intimidated them on some level they don't like to admit. Certainly his sharp critique didn't win him any friends, but I think they were all uncomfortable with his potential. Our Aunts and Uncles, especially Bleys and Fiona, are not comfortable with anything they can't control. Especially each other. Corwin always seemed to be too much of a wild card, and I think that is at the heart of their disdain. They tell themselves they should be able to, and he pulled them up on it at every turn."

"That is just my opinion, of course," he adds nonchalantly.

"That makes sense," Roz nods. "I doubt that many of our aunts and uncles have read my father's memoirs as carefully as I have. If they had they might be happy to discover that they are all actually portrayed rather well -- especially at the end when Corwin has come to know them all better and made his peace with all of them. But he and your father seemed to share a close bond of friendship," Roz looks at John and smiles, "I hope that you and I can continue that; turn it into a kind of family tradition."
"I think Corwin was the first one to give him any respect," John murmurs. "And you know what they say- 'the more respect a man is paid, they get more respectable every day.'" He takes a drink the newly arrived cocktails. "Seriously, the whole crossbow assassination attempt that got him wound up imprisoned might never have happened had your father not given Dad a sense of honor and loyalty. We live up to expectations, just as we live down to them sometimes. The mediating factor being the expectations themselves."

He smiles then. "But yes.. let us be friends then." He raises his glass in salute. "To new friendships, built upon old relationships."

Roz raises her glass. "To new friendships," she agrees.

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