SELECTIONS FROM A DISCUSSION OF "TICKETS, PLEASE" ON RANANIM LISTSERV First a bit of history about the story, "Tickets, Please": It was first published in _The Strand_ magazine (April 1919 issue) which specialized in detective and weird fiction. It was the only Lawrence story ever to be published in _The Strand_ and at a time when the magazine was searching for "new blood" to revitalize slagging wartime sales. There are a few differences from the magazine version and the version later collected in book form. The inspector's name was originally John Joseph Raynor. Lawrence then changed it to John Thomas Raynor with the hated nick-name of "Coddy" (as in cod-piece) to drive the point home. John Thomas and Lady Jane are the euphemisms given the male and female sexual organs in _Lady Chatterley's Lover_. The other major difference is in the ending scene which is more elaborate in the revised version. The first thing I noticed about the story this time around is how the first paragraph is constructed just like the tramway system. There is a long flowing sentence of about 12 lines, then two short sentences which act like the terminal where the tram takes a brief break before swooping away onto another sentence/track of about 12 lines. Talk about form matching content!!! I also notice that Annie's last name is Stone and yet the root name Ann means "graceful one," so already there is conflict or tension established in her character. The women who work the tram are described as "fearless young hussies. . . .They are not going to be done in the eye--not they. They fear nobody--and everybody fears them." (p. 66) The drivers and men of the tram are described as "men unfit for active service: cripples and hunchbacks" or as "rash young men, a little crippled, or by delicate young men, who creep forward in terror." (p. 65-66) John Thomas is an inspector, not a driver; but still we must wonder in this time of war why he is in the service of the tramway rather than military service. Is he one of these "delicate young men" who is "unfit for active service"? And yet he gets into trouble for being rather *too* active with the women. He avoids one war to get caught up in another--the battle of the sexes. He is in the position of being their superior as inspector, and yet the women seem to be filled with more raw courage. The women become like Bacchante warriors exacting their revenge and leaving him a casualty in the love/hate game. It's sadly ironic that the girl he likes the most is the one to lead the attack against him. And she is also the one he chooses at the end to be intertwined with in a relationship of hate. "Nay, how can I take one," he said, laughing uneasily. "I don't want to make enemies." "You'd only make *one*," said Annie. "The chosen *one*," added Laura. (p. 74-75/_Portable DHL_/Penguin) Then there is the scene of guessing which girl *touches* him on the back. "Touch" is a fully loaded word for Lawrence. It plays an important part in many of his stories and novels (such as "You Touched Me"). Touch can be physical contact; or emotional as in to feel touched with pity, sympathy or tenderness; or simply to be handled or used; as well as being slang for "hitting someone up" for money or favors or to steal from them. So John Thomas is touched by Annie who leads the assault. But then he touches her back symbolically when he singles her out. She has finally established (or been granted) the personal level of intimacy (as opposed to his impersonal "nocturnal presence") that she desired from him. But the intimacy is one of hate not love. She is singled out from the crowd--AN INDIVIDUAL--But a hated individual. Part of the revised ending centers on the key to the door that Annie possesses and gives over for him to leave. The *key* is a symbol of power which she now has over him. He has indeed been "taken down a peg or two"; but in the new version, Annie feels regret over this change of authority. "That'll learn him," said Laura. "Coddy!" said Nora. "Shut up, for God's sake!" cried Annie fiercely, as if in torture. (p. 80) Because the two main characters are now *locked* together, John Thomas has cleverly brought Annie down with him. Thus the phrase: "He was cunning in his overthrow. He did not give in to them really--no, not if they tore him to bits." (p. 78) He has been "cowed" with all the female symbolism that implies, and yet remains defiant. It's a wonderful and eerie story! It also has links to Lawrence's own life when he was attacked by factory girls. I'm sure there is much more that can be said of the story, but these were my initial thoughts. --Tina Ferris KEYS: I was thinking some more about the key symbolism in "Tickets, Please." According to Barbara Walker (a wonderful reference in critiquing Lawrence because of the pagan/feminist slant): "The key was a mystical symbol of knowledge about the afterlife. . . .Like the pagan *petra* who became Peter, key-holding deities could grant or refuse admission through the heavenly gates. . . .The Goddess Persephone was the original holder of the key to Hades." (p. 140-41/_The Woman's Dictionary of Symbols & Sacred Objects_/Harper & Row) The key is also a male phallic symbol to the lock's female symbol. Annie, as keyholder, can grant or deny access to her body, just as she controls whether or not John Thomas leaves the room (the room itself being a womb symbol). The _Penguin Dictionary of Symbols_ states: "Because keys open and shut gates, they are regarded by the Bambara as symbols of power and authority because 'all that is said and all that is done in the individual, in the state, and in the world at large, is a gate. . . .Keys symbolize chiefs, rulers, and mystagogues who possess decision-making powers and responsibility." (p. 565) The tram itself is another phallic symbol which is run mostly by women and often jumps the track or catches fire and is pushed onward by the riders. (I'll let you work out the connotations of that!) ;-) Lawrence writes in the next paragraph: "The reason for this reluctance to dismount is that the nights are howlingly cold, black, and windswept, and a car is a haven of refuge." Then Annie and John Thomas at the Fair: "After all, he had a wonderfully warm, cosy way of holding a girl with his arm, he seemed to make such a nice fit. And after all, it was pleasant to be so held: so very comforting and cosy and nice." Annie likes that John Thomas is a warm, safe-haven just like the tramcars. The question remains has Annie succeeded in unmanning John Thomas at the end of the story or not. Perhaps her "torture" in the last scene is not one of *regret* but one of *defeat* since his name is still "Coddy" and she had wanted to "kill" him. She has given over the keys by which he will withdraw from the room/womb and escape. The great thing about Lawrence's fiction is he so often sets up this dual kind of ending which can be read either way. He wants us to struggle with its meaning, to take an active part. ENDINGS: The ending of the two versions diverge after the lines: "'Who wants him?' cried Laura, roughly. 'Nobody,' they answered, with derision." The _Strand_ version then immediately goes into the last two paragraphs which read: "And they began to put themselves tidy, taking down their hair, and arranging it. Annie unlocked the door. John Joseph looked round for his things. He picked up the tatters, and did not quite know what to do with them. Then he found his cap, and put it on, and then his overcoat. He rolled his ragged tunic into a bundle. And he went silently out of the room, into the night. The girls continued in silence to dress their hair and adjust their clothing, as if he had never existed." I rather like that last line, but it makes for an ending that is more decisively one of John Joseph's defeat and total castration. The longer version of the tale is more ambiguous and therefore more complex. Although "his head is dropped" as he leaves, there seems a quiet dignity about him that is created by these lines: "He looked at none of them. He espied his cap in a corner and went and picked it up. He put it on his head, and one of the girls burst into a shrill, hysteric laugh at the sight he presented. He, however, took no heed but went straight to where his overcoat hung on a peg. The girls moved away from contact with him as if he had been an electric wire. He put on his coat and buttoned it down. Then he rolled his tunic-rags into a bundle, and stood before the locked door, dumbly." In this version John Thomas is the one who denies the existence of the women. Hats are a symbol of authority, and he retrieves his and places it back on his head (same as earlier version but more elaborately drawn out). They laugh but make way for him. And he takes "no heed" of their laughter. An "electric wire" can be deadly if touched. He takes the time to make himself presentable again just as the women do and then stands defiantly in front of the door waiting for the keymaster to give back his command by opening the door for him. In this version of the story John Thomas is a much stronger character in my opinion. He seems more pitiful and powerless in the earlier _Strand_ version. Also people tend to forget that Lawrence was a wit and enjoyed word-plays. The title of the story is "Tickets, Please" and is about women who punched the tickets for the tramway (the medium of exchange for the service provided): "They pounce on the youths who try to evade their ticket-machine. They push off the men at the end of their distance." So the *punchline* to this story is that John Thomas has at last had his ticket punched and his ride is OVER! --Tina Ferris > Also in reference to fertility, the Bacchic rituals were orgiastic. > > May you explain better? > First I'd like to note that I see now most of the differences were because you were using an older version(s) of the myth. So now I see where your information came from. The Bacchae (women followers of Dionysus) would enter a kind of divine frenzy. Most often fleeing to woods, and I think mountains with woods most often. There they would do things like attack and kill wild animals with their bare hands, and eat its raw flesh and blood (which is how they "ate" Orpheus, which you mentioned). Also in Euripides's The Bacchae, a woman (queen actually) eats her son and mounts his head on a stick and brags, thinking he's a lion in her frenzy. Dionysus arranged that because the royal family did not believe in him. To the orgiastic part in particular, it was essentially that. The women in their frenzy would grap men around them and drag them into the bushes and have sex with them. That is to not imply the sex was heterosexual, just an example. I'm not sure, regarding fertility, any stories of impregnation by these orgies. So perhaps it's the lack of fertility that's important. Jason From: "DAX" John Thomas is not able to play a better role than a Christ at the end. He is near Egbert in "England my England". He is a victim. These male characters refuse their world or use it to be victims, but they do not help female characters. At the end John Thomas turns Ann into a sinner, though she didn't want it. Fertility and in a wider way life is near but these characters can't catch it. Patrizia asks of the nickname, Coddy: > He has even a bad nickname > (what does it mean?) I had assumed it means much the same as "John Thomas." A "cod-piece" in medieval armor is the padded metal cup protecting the family jewels. They are sometimes quite elaborate in design! I just now looked up the word "cod" and it has a meaning of "pillow" or "cushion" which I guess relates to the function of the cod-piece. Interesting! So by calling him "Coddy" at the end of the story are they calling him a "prick" or are they saying he's "soft"??? > Yes, we do not know exactly him, notwithstanding he is a sort of "eaten god" > at the end and Randall says: > It also has links to the Orpheus myth.